I expected better from the comments of a community called “Uplifting”
Just block them and be done with it.
Blocking is extremely effective here compared to Reddit, they just poof out of existence and you never have to think about them again.
Im one of the supposedly negative ones - think im about 150 down in comment karma at this point.
What worries me is the push toward inclusion at the expense of everything and everyone else, and that and discussions and calls to stop and think are met with insults, accusations, and apparently I’m just wanting to swing my giant dick around. I wish I had a giant dick to swing around.
We as a society have never had to try integrate a group that presents concerns that actually affect other people. Black people in the states were just black people, religion has different views but are within their rights to do as they wish and practice without interfere from others. Where does a trans persons rights to how they see themselves compare to how others see them and their rights? We have mums calling out trans people who call themselves mums, students wanting to compete where they have advantages over nok trans students because of who they see themselves as, and let’s not even go into the bathroom debate. Do we need to fire people who worked hard to have the right ratios in an industry, and do we hire based on sexual orientation and race to be more inclusive - and is this morally right? Is it morally right to expect 50% of woman board members, and only 0.2% of kindergarten teachers male?
All people have rights, concerns and should have autonomy in themselves. But this can’t come at the expense of others and openly discussing these concerns, developing ideas, strategies and understanding are how we work through it without generating resentment and anger - but these are not easy or pleasant discussions.
We as a society have never had to try integrate a group that presents concerns that actually affect other people. Black people in the states were just black people,
You couldn’t have shown your lack of knowledge of history more perfectly if you tried. Have you ever heard of the term segregation?
As long as the movie is good I don’t care who made it. The industry also shouldn’t. This goes both ways: good nonbinary filmmakers should get to make movies, bad nonbinary filmmakers shouldn’t make movies just because they’re nonbinary.
Whoa!! Now I get even more chills watching LotR. Knowing IRL Galadriel supporting the quest for queerness. 🥰
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That’s never been the case though. It’s all about connections. You could have the greatest script ever, but if you don’t know the right people with money it’s not getting made.
Until recently Hollywood has very much been an old white guy’s party. Old white guys tend not to be very accepting of others.
So, as an old white guy, I will say: this doesn’t bother me.
It’s so funny how my comment was removed as transphobic, when I am advocating for meritocracy and away from gender discrimination. Am assuming you are more in the right than not. Connections always meant everything in the business world. Still I’d prefer if movies were made based on skill and quality… not how directors identify. But then again, it’s transphobic it seems.
Hmm I agree, I didn’t read it as transphobic at all. I agree that movies should be produced on the merit of the script alone, but the fact is that they haven’t been in the past. Hopefully one day programs like these won’t be necessary.
Doubt they will have meaningful impact. All that said, drop a look at A24 pictures. They have give complete creative rights to the directors. Sometimes this results in awesome movies, sometimes in flops, but at least they are approaching this from an artistic point of view and not just like another investment.
Oh yeah I love A24. As much as a Marvel nerd as I am, the best movies don’t come from Hollywood these days.
(Not interested in talking about Marvel in this thread though, just using them as an example of a thing I do like from Hollywood. I’m aware they’ve been shitting the bed on a few projects the past few years but I like it anyway)
best movies don’t come from Hollywood these days
Completely agree. At least most of them don’t come from Hollywood.
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Instead of making a long list of every non cis-male group
To be clear, the “long list” you’re referring to contains three entries.
Do you actually have trouble juggling that much information at once or are you just upset because you think providing help and opportunities to someone other than a cis-het man is somehow oppressing you? Be honest.
LGBT contains 4, cis woman is a 5th, and is not the entirety of the list.
Why do you have to be offended by everything that doesn’t align with your exact view of the world. I’m going to assume you aren’t a cis male based on your responses here, and if you are that exact attitude is where these discriminate views come from.
Edit: and would rather keep the closet view than open discussion. Not blocked because I believe these discussions need to be had.
Why do you have to be offended by everything that doesn’t align with your exact view of the world. I’m going to assume you aren’t a cis male based on your responses here, and if you are that exact attitude is where these discriminate views come from.
Alright, I’ve read enough of your inane yammering for one lifetime. Blocked.
Who said they’re offended? You were “offended” enough to make the initial comment, they just replied to counter your bad arguments.
And empowering people doesn’t mean discrimination. Especially if the people being empowered are at a disadvantage. Your comment reeks of bigoted dog whistles
I didn’t post the original comment. And they were offended enough to start questioning the intelligence of someone asking a question that honestly, sounds like a good point - its targeting everyone but straight males. Let alone i have no idea where they got groups from.
I will be honest, don’t know where you got empowerment from.
Ah thank you for the correction. However they were not questioning the intelligence, they were questioning the morals of the comment op, as shown by their use of “actually”
Another correction, sexuality has nothing to do with the article. It’s specifically women, trans, and nonbinary people. Which is not targeting everyone except straight males.
What is targeting straight males is the hiring departments in Hollywood. If you read the article, it said less than 6% of directors are women. That’s messed up. A third of speaking roles are women, trans, or nb. They are underrepresented by a long shot.
Empowering is what the goal of this all is. It’s in the title.
I read different into their use of actually, but this is a peril of internet text based discussions.
Make no mistake, I fully agree that Hollywood is sexist and racist. My issue is how quick we swing from “its not ok to hire based on race and gender” to “let’s focus on hiring and development based on race and gender”. Did one group get better off in the past - absolutely. But where is the line of it being acceptable to be racist and sexist - is it never ok or is it what society is ok with, putting us right back 30 years ago?
It’s not taking away from, oppressing, or discriminating against cis men to empower the other genders and to say that it is is cause to question a person’s intelligence. You got your empowerment by beating down everyone that wasn’t a big, swinging dick like you, it’s time to let others have some stake in the world
If I had a big, swinging dick I’d be posting on onlyfans instead of lemmy.
Original poster never mentioned that it was taking away from cis men, only wouldn’t it be an easier thing to say - let’s be honest, no one is trying to bring down boards with low white male members, or bring out policies that further their interest… except for the likes of white power and KKK, but they aren’t exactly beacons of equality.
LMFAO no one said you had a big swinging dick, I said you are one. Because all you care about is what cis, white men are getting out of the deal. Y’all have been on top of the world for fucking ever, white men literally rule the world, time to let the other genders be seen.
