• TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Except when it’s not. I so much hate this rhetoric. You know what? You can freely think that I am one, and I genuinely think I’m not. If you think that I am one, that’s your problem, not mine. That’s why OP’s question is so hard to answer. Because everybody is just parroting this rhetoric.

    And “you are clearly an alcoholic” comments in 3, 2, 1…

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      11 months ago

      You can freely think that I am one, and I genuinely think I’m not. If you think that I am one, that’s your problem, not mine.

      I mean that’s exactly the issue lol. You might not be an alcoholic, but if you were there’s a solid chance you’d deny that fact.There is a good reason why parts of the 12 step program involve admitting and recognizing that there is a problem, and it’s not limited to alcoholism but substance abuse in general.

      A lot of people who genuinely need help refuses to see or admit that they do.

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        11 months ago

        If someone has problem x but doesn’t want others to know about it, how would they behave?

        If someone didn’t have problem x and didn’t want others to think they did, how would they behave?

        And most importantly, how would you differentiate between the two cases? Don’t just stop after the first question.

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          In both cases I think they would deny it.

          I don’t have a solution for the 2nd situation (and I don’t think anyone really does), this is more of a social problem. The point I’m making is that in the first scenario there is a clear pattern of denial for those who need help.

          In terms of how you differeniate it, my understanding is if the behavior is impacting your life negatively then you would seek help. But I’m not an expert and that’s not a problem we are solving here.