PARIS, Nov 27 (Reuters) - Six teenagers go on trial behind closed doors on Monday, accused of involvement in the beheading of French history teacher Samuel Paty by a suspected Islamist in 2020 in an attack that struck at the heart of the country’s secular values.

The teacher had shown his pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in a class on freedom of expression, angering a number of Muslim parents. Muslims believe that any depiction of the Prophet is blasphemous.

        • 100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world
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          Maybe, depends on the scope of their involvement. Most European countries have 10 years max for minors, even for premeditated murder.

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                Yes. When they’ve committed premeditated criminal conspiracy and that criminal act is premeditated religious assassination.

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                  I see you’re privy to some information that the media doesn’t have, everywhere says he wanted to know where that teacher was to scare him. Where did you gather the information from that they were co-conspirators fully aware of the plan?

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                    Well I’m not a lawyer but what does “premeditated criminal conspiracy” mean to you? If it was just pointing at someone why were they charged at all?

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        Which part of “helped monitor his exit” did you not get? They stalked him with the intent to assist the assassination. By your logic, many people aren’t actually criminals because they’re not the ones who actually carried out the murder, they just directed it.

        I’m not saying they should get the death penalty but what they did was heinous and deserves more than 2.5 years.

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          And yet, still they are not responsible for killing and beheading him, the adult who did it is.

          Nowhere does it state your xenophobic assumptions about how you feel over the event.

          For all they knew he was going to simply speak with the teacher, or maybe kick his ass.

          Tell me, why do you assume so freely that all of the Muslim kids were deeply involved in the beheading itself? I find that very interesting…

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              Did we?

              The only source I can find on such a thing is post Nuremberg trials, and it was ten nazi generals that definitely deserved it.

              I did find a source for 23,000 out of 35,000 deserting Nazis were killed by their own party for fleeing war, so maybe you were thinking of that while being a nazi?

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                The point is that you do not actually need to have killed anyone yourself for you to get the most severe punishment available. If they’re a fascist, put them before a court and let them be judged. But there’s a problem. The people are not yet antagonized against fascism enough. Too many people are accepting or indifferent of it.

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                  But there’s a problem. The people are not yet antagonized against fascism enough

                  That…and the fact they are like 14 and not fascists, but yeah, other than that nothing you say is crazy at all!

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                    So people shouldn’t be opposed to fascism? Seems more like you’re the 14 year old and have watched too much Shen Babipo

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            Where did I say they were directly involved in the beheading? I know xenophobic is a big word for you but you should still look up the definition before just tossing it around like that.

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              You speak of me needing to improve my literacy and yet you’re the one confusing deeply involved with directly.

              Unless you’re just backpedaling and attempting to obfuscate the point, now.