• LordR@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      Reason number 1: You don’t want to live in a hellish dictatorship.

      You have two options here: vote for an old guy who did some good stuff or actively or passively vote for fascism.

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        Yeah, but he’s old, and he’s not the purity pony that I wanted!!!

        So…both sides are just as bad! Let it burn!

        /s

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          Then vote for people who think the same or if you live in a state that allows the population to introduce laws start that process.

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      As someone who has elderly in-laws, as someone who has a child, as someone who doesn’t want to inflict suffering on others regardless if they are a “shit lib” or an aging maga voter, I don’t see any utility in letting it “burn”. You don’t recover from this. If you want to see how that works, look at Russia. People are just resound to the fact that this is the best they could look forward to. After decades of government control, people just wilt and accept it as the new normal. It’s not fun. It’s not heroic. It’s just sad.

      My family fled Russia in the 1980s prior to the collapse because my family saw bad getting worse. This could easily happen to the U.S. I don’t get how helping fuel this with apathy results in anything better.

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          Nothing you said has much relevance to what I said. I wasn’t talking about my struggle or yours for that matter. I was trying to offer an explanation of where things could be heading if we elect republicans. The result of which will impact the people who the need the most help. Not once did I mention the U.S. being good. Nor did I make any references to things being ok. But things can get significantly worse.

          It’s fine if you don’t care. I just hope your level of empathy is not contagious because unfortunately, despite how awful Biden has been on many policies, it could get so much worse. And I have too many important people in my life to casually give up.

          If I had the talent, I’d be running for local office to try and make some significant changes. Since I don’t, I will do my best to vote for the most left wing folks into office in the hopes that we can empower them to change from within.

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      In this case, it’s not about either choice making your life better, it’s about one choice actively making your life worse vs. Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden.

      Under Trump, the US will become a failed state:

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/30/trump-interview-jail-political-opponents-glenn-beck

      https://thewire.in/world/america-is-on-the-brink-of-another-civil-war-this-one-fuelled-by-donald-trump

      When did the Democrats become the status quo party? 🤔

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          If you think any third party has a shot when the Democratic party and the Republican party control the debate schedule, you have no business calling anyone else a child.

          The next Predident will be from one of the two major parties, so will the one after that… and after that.

          Voting for a 3rd party who gets between 1 and 5% of the vote will not change that, any more than writing in a candidate will. All you will do is throw away your vote.