Texas State Rep. James Talarico using biblical scripture to tear down conservative Christian arguments
Conservatives aren’t Christian. They just pretend to be so they can manipulate each other.
They want to expand that to manipulate everyone.
They never have an answer when someone uses the book they’ve never actually read against them. All she could do was stand there and stutter.
Source article, rather than a re-host by yahoo: https://www.pride.com/politics/james-talarico-ten-commandments
Gotta love when an articpe describes something in the title, and then doesn’t actually put the details of that thing in the article. The only mention of the bible in the article is “After quoting from the bible, the Democratic lawmaker said…”
Anyone know what the actual quote was?
Matthew 6:5 about praying in secret. Also some references to faith without works is dead and to feed the hungry and clothe the naked in reference to why there is a proposal to put the commandments in classrooms but not to do what Jesus actually calls Christians to do.
It does include the tiktok video of the rebuttal, which is well worth the watch!
What do you call people who don’t follow the Bible?
Answer - Christians
Jesus was a poor, brown skinned, socialist, Middle-Eastern, Jewish, pacifist hippie who advocated for paying taxes, supporting the poor, forgiving criminals, giving your money away to charity, and practicing nonviolence all while hanging out with a bunch of other men and prostitutes.
If the second coming happened today Christians would crucify him again before the weekend was over.
No he wasn’t. He didn’t exist.
Most people assume he did and there’s evidence for it, but there really isn’t. It’s just an assumption that’s convenient for Christians to push. There actually is almost no historical evidence for it.
You’re currently downvoted because this assumption has been pushed very hard, and it’s not totally unfounded. I have no more reason to trust it than I do to trust that Santa was real. There’s far too much desire to create evidence for me to bother with it. I don’t believe he wasn’t real either. I just don’t entertain either idea. It doesn’t change anything whichever is true. He wasn’t the son of God regardless.
“Virtually all scholars agree that a Jewish man named Jesus of Nazareth did exist in Palestine in the 1st century CE.[1][7][8][note 1] Scholars regard the question of historicity as generally settled in scholarship in the early 20th century.”
https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/
Something being considered settled doesn’t really prove anything. Many thing have been considered settled and been totally wrong. If they’re settling it with insufficient evidence, then I don’t really care to believe it. If it requires a leap of faith instead of logic, then it isn’t good enough in my opinion. I’ll continue not having a belief in him existing or not.
I thought republican Christians did not believe in the bible any more. It’s too woke
They’re fine with the Old Testament, it’s got plenty of treachery, rape, slavery and fraud cheered on by God, mixed in with smiting and destroying things that disagree with you.
They have a problem with the teachings of Christ in the New Testament, which is all a bit too “someone was different to me so I made friends with them and we ate together”.
rape, slavery
It draws an odd moral line here where a virgin prisoner of war can basically be raped for the rest of her life as a “wife” but the act of doing so makes it so the “husband” cannot sell her into slavery after leaving her.
I think the best way of summing up biblical ethics is “there’s animal rights but women are the animals”
I thought that was the main difference between Christians and Jews though
Jewish tradition celebrates reason and doesn’t have the hell Christians do (or so I’m told).
“reason”
The sarcastic air quotes reveal your bias towards organized religion as a whole as well as your ignorance of Jewish culture.
Science and education are a fundamental part of Jewish culture. Someone regarded as one of the smartest people in recent history is Jewish and I imagine that without his parents valuing education and science, the rest of us would still think time and space are two separate things.
Yes, there are orthodox and dogmatic Jews just like in any religion. But just because someone has a much different world view than you doesn’t mean they don’t value reason.
Yes, I absolutely fucking despise organized religion in all it’s forms. Got NO problem saying that. All organized religions are evil by definition.
doesn’t mean they don’t value reason.
… they believe in 3000 year old fairy tales. They don’t value reason any more than any other religion. Reason gets in the way.
The new testament and old testament “god” are so different that sometimes I wonder if the new testament is 5% Jesus^1 hijacking an old religion to try and make something good out of it, and 95% his followers trying to make sense and reconcile what Jesus taught with the old testament.
^1 afaik it’s fairly well established that Jesus - or someone like him - existed, the big question is if they were actually a deity or not.
I think there’s definitely something in your line of thinking. In modern terms, there’s a lot retconning in the New Testament to make the books add up as a series. They spend the whole “intro” persuading you it follows a direct lineage over ~2000 years.
There’s some pretty wild “fan theories”. Some say it’s correcting the “errors”, “corruption of language over time” or “devil influence” of the older book, others say OT “YHWH” is not NT “God almighty”, but an unrelated angry local God.
They all claim “Newest is truest” - even the more controversial “later sequels”.
A lot of Catholics in my hometown don’t believe the Pope is Christian anymore.
Then they have become protestant without realizing 😂
To be fair, the Bible says nothing about having to follow the pope in order to get to heaven.
In fact, one could even argue that Jesus would not have approved of such an institution, because in Matthew 23:9, he explicitly says this:
Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
Meanwhile, the verse that the Catholic church bases the legitimacy of the papacy on (Matthew 16:18) is far more vague:
And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
was secretly hoping the title was literal and he just took a bible and smacked the republicans upside the head
“THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELLS YOU!” WHACK
Just so you and everyone else is aware. In the link you posted, everything after the question mark is a tracking id, using the link without that part of the link works perfectly fine and reduces traceability.
Tracking parameter free version.
While we’re at it
Question, is that true for all links?
Like can I just cut out the question mark and back for all links I send?
I think the others already gave enough detail but if you’d like to learn a little of the more technical stuff for how the URLs we see (and can edit before viewing) work, look into HTTP “GET” requests!
You have to deduce what each key=value pair means after the question mark, and they’re separated by ampersands (&). This varies by website.
YouTube uses the format “v=…” to point to its videos, and “t=…” to specify the time of playback.
Not always, like the piped link above uses the parameter after the question mark to know which video to load so you would lose crucial information. It’s often pretty obvious what is important and what is not though. The parameters are separated by an & so you can cut off anything extra if you want. You can also just try it in your browser and make sure it still works before sharing it.
Thank you for letting me know
I loved how small she sounded at the end of questioning by the first guy. Then the chud in the back-right corner has to jump on and say “oh since Jesus is God, he wrote the ten commandments, don’t you just feel the luuuv in them” and totally tried to give her back face after the questioning. But as the first rep said, the bill, as it’s written, is arrogant and idolatrous. But she just wants to “keep it clean”, and ignore every other piece of history that shows the coalition that formed to create the US.
Good, but it shouldn’t have even gotten that far.
Don’t y’all know it doesn’t count if it happens in the new testament
Isn’t Jesus from the new testament?
That is what he is saying. To them Jesus doesn’t count. He’s much too nice to others. Really, they don’t care about the Bible except as a tool to abuse others so the argument in the article will not have any influence on christofacist thinking.
I recently read an article where pastors/priests are having this issue. They are quoting Jesus Christ and then being told by MAGA followers that they are spouting “woke liberal propaganda.”
Now, you don’t have to follow what Jesus said to do. I’m not Christian and so don’t model my life around his teachings. But if you claim to “follow Jesus,” but then want to reject what Jesus said to do because it’s “too woke,” then maybe you should get a different religion!
Funny thing is, if you take the bible and ignore the new testament, isn’t that effectively Judaism?
Ah, I misunderstood then. I keep hearing Americans praise Jesus, only to turn around and do everything Jesus told people not to do…
But yeah it totally makes sense when you only consider these people who only use the Bible as a tool.
Junk links all over the article, but none leading to the video they talk about? Journalism is dead.
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Ahh yes I too remember the well known and oft quoted bible passage “and then the Lord said unto him, ‘place a picture of your dingus on the wall in every room’ and then after he had said it, he laughed unto himself, saying ‘hehe I wonder if they’ll actually do it’ “
You must be referring to https://biblehub.com/niv/ezekiel/23.htm
The only argument in favor if this bill seems to be that the Ten Commandments were taught in our nation’s earliest schools…
Imagine all the crazy things that were taught in 18th & 19th century schools. It’s just a stupid argument on its face.
Epic
YouTube auto captions on point about the Kennedy decision! In case you need a screenshot.
