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Actually, the top one is the logo of the chromium browser engine, but the bottom one is not the logo of the Gecko browser engine. That’s the logo of SpiderMonkey, Firefox’s Javascript engine (Chromium uses V8).
This is the logo for Gecko:
Firefox doesn’t even use Gecko anymore, it uses Quantum. I think it still uses spidermonkey though.
This is not correct.
Firefox still uses Gecko for its HTML engine. Quantum was a project to incorporate some learnings from Servo, and other larger performance projects, into Firefox components, including Gecko.
Just an aside, but Servo was never intended to replace Gecko, and was only intended to be a R&D project for improving some Firefox components. This was due to the long-tail of web compatibility that would be required to make Servo a suitable replacement for Gecko.
It’s especially moronic that Cloudflare thinks everyone using Tor is trying to DDOS every site.
Do you know how fucking slow Tor is? You couldn’t DDOS an Arduino with it.
Onion sites get DDOS attacks constantly. That’s why Dread has so many backup links.
afaik, cloudflare has an option to disallow tor traffic. so the website owner decided they don’t want tor
Not only tor. Any user agent string that has no valid info is marked as not trusted/bot/gtfo
I get the joke but I don’t have any problems visiting websites. Neither with firefox nor with mull
My wife was recently in school. Almost all the services she used decline to render unless you’re using Chrome.
I 100% expect websites to soon start breaking their interface on Firefox. With Chromium blocking the best adblockers, they will be incentivized to nudge people to Chromium browsers.
Didn’t we already see Youtube sneaking in a 5 second delay for Firefox users?
Come on, don’t you people read what other people write?
There was a reddit post that claimed that, and it was debunked in that same reddit post. Some website made a “news” article about it, citing said reddit post. Bigger news orgs made articles about it citing that website.
There are so many “news” websites that basically don’t do any fact checking and use social media as their sources.
My other pet peeve around social media “journalism” is when someone writes an article about a hot take on a political topic and their source is some tweet with like 2 likes and retweet. Like, that’s not a radical opinion many people share, stop making it seem like this is a common sentiment amongst the left/right.
But I did have issues with some Web SDRs on http://www.websdr.org/ when using Chromium-based browsers
And I wasn’t the only one, looking at F.A.Q.:
Q: I’m using Chrome and don’t hear audio (on some sites)!
A: Since version 71, Chrome does not allow every website to start playing audio, in order to stop annoying advertisements. Chrome tries to guess whether you want audio or not, but doesn’t always get it right. On some WebSDR sites, you’ll get an “audio start” button, on some you don’t.
If you don’t get audio, try the following:
- At the top right, click the 4 vertical dots, and then Settings.
- At the bottom, click Advanced.
- Under “Privacy and security,” click Site settings.
- Select “Sound”
- Select “Add” and enter “http://*”
(thanks to K9GL for these instructions)
Note that the above effectively disables Chrome’s “autoplay” policy for all http sites.
Although stopping automatic sound from advertisements is a noble idea, I think Chrome’s autoplay policy is fundamentally wrong. Instead of trying to guess what the user wants, the browser should simply ask the user whether he/she wants to allow the page to play sound (and remember that for later visits, of course).
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The only think I can’t do in FF is flash an esp32. It’s the only reason I have chrome installed.
There are multiple dedicated ESP32 flashing programs available for most operating systems, there should be no reason to use any web browser to flash a microcontroller.
The fact this even needs to be said says a lot about modern web browsers, and software development in general.
I believe ESPHome has a web flasher that only works on Chrome or Edge. It’s a simple way to prepare your devices.
WebUSB is handy for things like factory resetting a pixel, where it’s one of many options available… what I don’t like is when manufacturers decide to only allow their device to be configured over webusb (looking at you various mech keyboard companies 🤬)
How do you factory reset a Pixel through web?
I never learned how to use that, just used the CLI tools like fastboot and adb for all that
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Probably so. I’ve been having trouble with getting my boards to work with the esphome site, so I’ve just been using the flashing utility from esp.
redmedical will force me to open the rotting corpse of edge everytime i try to enter a meeting.
Would MSEdgeRedirect help with that?
not really. i can open it in another browser, but anything else is “unsupported”
The site claims it’s unsupported? That usually means nothing. Every site I’ve encountered like that will work fine in Firefox if I switch the user agent header to Edge.
i will try that next time, might just work. do you need an extension, or is that a native feature?
Afaik you need an extension. The best one I’ve found is called User-Agent Switcher.
It even works for me on Android, for the Firefox builds that support sideloading addons.
Do we, as an industry, have such short attention span, that we forgot how Microsoft abused their monopoly in the 1990s to force everyone to use Internet Explorer? Now that Google is doing the exact same thing, nobody seems to mind.
Because the tech gigacorporations have literally spent the last three decades brainwashing us into accepting shit like that and even convincing us that it’s better this way.
Not better. No one thinks anything is better, just that we don’t have a choice but to take what they serve.
I remember using Netscape (my Google keyboard didn’t know that word) before Firefox and SeaMonkey. I mostly used SeaMonkey to edit HTML and Firefox for my casual browsing.
Those of us who had to develop websites and make them even vaguely functional in IE6 haven’t forgotten.
Dark times, those were.
I use lynx btw.
Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in ages.
my company give choice to use Firefox and Chrome and it is mandatory to install those browsers on those computers. But, 95% use Chrome.
My company has basically forced us to use Chrome. It’s mentioned repeatedly throughout our training period.
I haven’t tried Firefox at work yet though but I’m sure it’ll work just fine.
It’s “how it feels” or “what it feels like”, not “how it feels like”
Thank you! Also “how it looks” and “what it looks like”. I see people messing those up all the time
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Brave isn’t doing much better with captchas lately due to having adblocking built in, google is just on a crusade against anyone blocking stuff.
It’s so absurd. It feels like half of the websites out there actively don’t want me to visit them.
I don’t have any problems using Firefox every day on every website that I need. I use it on Windows, Mac, Linux, and Android.
The only browser that I actually have problems with websites regularly on is Safari on my Mac.
within the last couple days my Firefox browser has stopped working. It used to be my default, but now whenever I call on Firefox the screen just comes up black. But guess what? Chrome works fine. they’re forcing me to use Chrome now 😡
Is that on Android? It happens every once in a while for me. I just fully close the app and relaunch it and it works fine.
Yes Android, thank you for the tip. I will try that.
What is the second browser from the bottom on the right?
Librewolf
As the other two said, Librewolf. It’s basically a very privacy-focused fork of Firefox, where just about all privacy settings are on by default.
Now that is driving me crazy, it looks so familiar, but I just can’t place it.👿
Found it!
It’s Librewolf, a Firefox fork.
Amarok
Haha now that you mention it, they do have similar logos.
I don’t know which websites do that browser discrimination.
Youtube
I don’t have any problem with YouTube, and I don’t even see any ad. Can you send links? Because the last rumor was just a 5 timeout delay for ad blockers users, not specially for Firefox users.
Appearantly people only read headlines
Apparently just non-chromium users, not adblock users
I’ve read several comments from chromium browser users that they also experienced this. I’m using Firefox and have not. It’s just A/B testing for all adblock users.
I don’t have any slow-down time, and Chromium users will have bigger issues with ad blockers with ManifestV3.
Pornhub
I suppose you are just trolling. If not, send any links with evidences please.
For science.
Hahaha, I feel stupid taking his response seriously… I should have assumed it was joke.
Duck duck go?
Their browser on Android relies on Chromium, on Windows it uses Edge’s webview thingy and on macOS Safari afaik
What’s the problem with Firefox? Certainly can’t be the speed or ram usage.
YouTube intentionally slows down on non-chrome browsers
The image says “visiting websites”, not “YouTube”. And Google does this for several years already, not just since 2023. The new 5 second delay is also happening in Chromium based browsers if you use an adblocker, it just isn’t immediately rolling out to everyone yet. See A/B testing methodology.
Are they doing this for everyone? I’ve seen all the posts about it but haven’t had any issues myself. I’m using Firefox and uBlock
A/B testing rn
I did some testing last night and again this morning. Still no difference between Chrome and Firefox for me.
There’s no problem with Firefox. The problem is with managers of websites. Because Chromium-based browsers combined account for something like over 90% of global browser market share currently (source: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share), many sites decide to just throw any non-Chromium browser users overboard. The whole thing is quite ridiculous. It makes no sense that Firefox has such a low market share either.
Firefox is better, but it’s no surprise it isn’t mainstream.
1- A lot of businesses default to Chrome or Edge on their machines. Even if individual employees want to change it’s not like they have the ability to do it. Thats a huge amount of locked in Chromium traffic.
2- The vast majority of personal users are not tech conscious. Consider that only about 1/4 of people use ad-blockers. If the majority of people don’t bother installing ad-blockers why would people think they would install a new browser that has fewer immediately obvious benefits?
Online tech discussions have a tendency to vastly over estimate the tech savvy, and the expectations of most users. Just because you or I configure our computer experience, and think it’s a simple exercise doesn’t reflect most people who leave everything on default settings and simply live with whatever is thrown at them. This is just like the discussion on Netflix cracking down on account sharing, techies predicted a massive wave of piracy without understanding that most people don’t know how to, and are unwilling to learn how to pirate.
it’s too privacy focused, independent, and earnest at the moment
I find some sites just don’t work properly with Firefox. Drives me bonkers.
KHTML
