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      Portal’s not so bad if you’re happy with just your PlayStation library and simply want something for your bedside stand.

      I currently use a retroid pocket 3+ for almost only that purpose, and let me tell you, an 8 inch, 1080p screen + a full dualsense in my hands at night for just $200 seems like a really nice upgrade even if it means leaving my emulators on a different device.

      (Too bad for Sony I’ll personally be spending a lot more to have a Steam Deck OLED though) (teehee)

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        I have a Steam Deck and I don’t even own a PS5, so I’m probably way outside of the market for the Portal…

        But I’m really finding it hard imagine this device finding a broad audience, since even in a hypothetical best case we’re talking about a subset of a subset of PS5 owners. From what I understand the new PSVR sold pretty badly despite being a pretty solid piece of VR hardware, this feels like a very niche and underwhelming piece of hardware and so I really can’t imagine it performing any better.

        Someone will buy a PS Portal, and hopefully they like it, but when the smoke clears I don’t see it being a big hit.

        The Steam Deck OLED on the other hand, I suspect will sell out fast. It seems like there is a pretty big chunk of people who were interested in the first gen Steam Deck but opted for the wait and see approach, and I can imagine a lot of those people jumping on the Steam Deck OLED now that they know the device has lasting power. Personally I probably can’t justify the cost of upgrading from the LCD model right now, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t want to…

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          I’ll tell you a secret: if you have a steam deck, you have a Playstation portal as well. I beat days gone to platinum on steam deck… By streaming if from a ps4.

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            You could also get the ayn loki zero for a smiliar price to the playstation portal as well you have an playstation portal that can both play gta v and call of duty emulate ps1 games ontop of streaming your PlayStation 1 games

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          Yeah, I definitely agree that’s it’s targeting a niche within a subset. I think we’re coming from completely opposite camps, though. I’ve never had, nor was ever interested in owning a gaming PC. I have some Apple devices for work, a PS5 (and switch) for gaming, and a cheap little android handheld for retro titles -which coincidentally I use to remote play my PS5 from bed almost every night.

          For me, adding yet another platform to my ecosystem is kind of annoying, particularly with all the tweaking, tinkering and menuing I won’t be able to avoid. But a Deck also means I’ll be able to play older windows stuff that either never came to PS or were lost in the PS3 library, and I’ll be able to travel with it better, so it’s kind of worth it. Plus it’ll look really nice when remote-playing my PS5.

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            Wait until you try the PC ecosystem and realize that it’s where the games are the cheapest (thanks to bundles and Steam sales), where we don’t even need to ask about retro compatibility because it’s not siloed by generation…

            Also by far the biggest library because recently console exclusive tend to be exclusive to one console but also ported on PC (except for Nintendo games).

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        The thing is there are a lot of devices that you can use to stream from you PS5 and also have other functionalities. Like playing games natively, or emulators.

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          Yeah you’re right, and that’s a big sticking point of the Portal, but I think it’s worth noting that if you want a device that does those things with a screen as large as the Portal’s, you’ll probably be paying way more than $200. And that’s before having anything with the kind of haptic tech as the dualsense.

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        I dont have a TV in my bedroom, but couldn’t I set up a system for the same price where I can play all my console or PC games in bed on a full 30+ inch TV if I wanted to? For the same price that is?. It might be an interesting purchase if someone else wanted to be able to use the TV, but if I was buying one for me to play games on while in bed then my partner can gtfo lol. Though I suppose some people might want a more compact solution.

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    $200 to play a console game on a different screen only within the same network is insane. You could spend $100 more and get a full blown handheld console. This is fucking stupid, Sony.

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      Yeah, it’s the price that bothers me the most about this. For the same amount, you can get a whole Switch Lite.

      And I’m still salty about how they treated the Vita. This is what we get as the first handheld successor to the Vita? And the Vita didn’t cost much more.

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        Switch lite is a much smaller screen and also 720 instead of 1080p. So yes, you could spend the same to get a switch lite, but if you don’t plan on buying Nintendo games, why on earth would you? The controller is nowhere near comparable to a ps5 controller and all other aspects of gaming around the house would also be worse.

        Buying a PS5 controller is like $80, so at this point you’d be spending another $120 for the nice screen and big battery.

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      What are you buying for $300? Steam deck is about as cheap as you can get and that’s for $360. It’s also heavier, smaller screen, has a lower quality screen, and will run out of battery quicker.

      So if you don’t do pc gaming, why on earth would you want to spend closer to double the price?

      You know why you think it’s a stupid product? You either live alone or you still live with mom and dad and have a ps5 in your bedroom. This product isn’t for you, and you’re an idiot for thinking if it’s not something little ol you would want, than no one else must have a use for it, either.

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        This feels like too much emotion for the subject matter.

        Edit: removed an errant “a” that made the sentence read as if Mario wrote it.

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          Ironically, it’d make more sense if you lived with mom and dad, you play ps5 while they watch whatever they watch all in the same room

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        Oh I don’t know maybe you want to actually game portable and not just enjoy fake portability?

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            That can be done easily and cheaply, with a smartphone and a telescopic controller for example.

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              So a smaller screen and to get a good controller that holds a phone, they’re $100, or you can get a crap controller for $50 or less.

              Then are you going to be using you current phone that will have your gaming screwed up by calls and text messages? Or your old phone that you have to leave plugged in to use because the battery is shot? Also, how are you enjoying your audio lag because your phone doesn’t have a headphone jack?

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                Well, it’s still easier and cheaper 🙂

                Then are you going to be using you current phone that will have your gaming screwed up by calls and text messages?

                This is incredibly easy to solve, you don’t even need hacks.

                Gaming on smartphones and emulation on Android exists though.

                Or your old phone that you have to leave plugged in to use because the battery is shot?

                To be fair that is not that bad, I recently did it with an iPhone 6s to play some old iOS games, gladly the device still holds some hours of gaming.

                Also IDK what you mean by the audio thingy, but my phone has a jack port.

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                  Most phones released in the 0ast 5 years have no audio jack, you skipped over answering about the controller. You can’t really play ps5 games with touch controls, and you skipped over how incredibly small your iPhone 6s screen is. All olthat you describe would make for terrible gaming.

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    I still just do not understand who this is for. It seems extremely niche. I can’t see this selling all that well.

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      Hi. It’s me. I’m the one it’s for.

      I have a den where my PlayStation is hooked up to the nice TV. I don’t necessarily always want to be down there to play games, for any number of reasons. Sometimes my wife wants to watch TV while I want to play a game, and this allows us to be in the same room and do that.

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        Remote play runs on just about anything though, you could use a phone, chromecast, computer. I bought a $15 phone mount that hooks onto my PS5 controller and it’s essentially this device, but with the added benefit of using a device with more than one use.

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      It’s not for the kid who has his ps5 in his room, or the single adult who has full access all the time to sit on his living room couch eating cheerios in his underwear. It’s also not for the single guy making his living by reviewing video game junk that comes out in hopes of being paid for what he writes.

      It’s for families where mom or dad or sibling wants the TV for other things. So you can go back to the bedroom or den or garage or wherever else that isn’t blasting the 20th straight episode of my little pony and get some game time in.

      It’s 200 bucks. Ok. I have a game laptop and a steam deck. I never use the laptop anymore. The steam deck is too quick and easy. Streaming to cell phones gets you a smaller screen, smaller battery, and need to spend $100 on a gaming controller anyhow. You also can’t start up the ps5 and move things along so quickly. Also with phones streaming like this, the gyro isn’t as precise/great to use compared to a ps5 controller. I assume this screen/controller Playstation device works as well as their ps5 controller does.

      So yeah. It’s $200 for something that you may be able to do almost as well for free…but it’s not free. It’s based on if you already own hundreds of dollars worth of other things, m9st of which wouldn’t work quite as well.

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    As an owner of 2 Vita’s that didn’t use this feature on PS3, PS4, zero chance I’d buy this to do it on PS5.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    It doesn’t do any kind of cloud streaming like Nvidia’s Geforce Now or Sony’s own PlayStation Plus Premium subscription, and it can’t run anything locally (not even YouTube or Netflix).

    The Portal is purpose-built to use a singular feature Sony first debuted with the PS3 and PSP back in 2006 that’s also widely available on other devices you may already own, making me wonder: why does this exist?

    Compared to a Switch with standard Joy-Con controllers, the tradeoff in weight is made up for by its large grips that are comfier to use for extended play sessions.

    I’ve initially played a handful of hours with various PS5 games (Resident Evil 4, Armored Core VI Fires of Rubicon, and Astro’s Playroom, to name a few) in my limited time with the PlayStation Portal so far.

    At various points in the last two years, I’ve tinkered with using Remote Play to stream games from my PlayStation 5 to my PS4, my PC, various Android devices, an iPhone, an iPad Pro, and even a Steam Deck using open-source software Chiaki.

    My first impression is that this device is primarily for PlayStation diehards who want a simple, dedicated tool for streaming games around their homes.


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    Seems like it should’ve just been a thing you can connect your phone in the middle and it gives you the controls and a battery to remote play

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      Or tablets. I think there are gamepads and gamepad attachments like that, but probably trash tier quality in comparison. I agree though. They could’ve combined that with an app based streaming service, but also allow to use it for whatever else you might play on it. Would’ve actually been much more interesting of a product.

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    I suspect I’m pretty much the only market for this thing. I can play while in bed, which is where most of switch gaming currently happens. The price is probably reasonable for what it cost them, but they need to explain why anyone besides me would want one.

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      Ok, I’ll bite. What exactly makes you the only person in the world who can play a handheld in bed?

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    What’s the point in this thing if it’s not an actual handheld console? What does it do that a playstation controller + smartphone/tablet can’t do?

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      Yeah I didn’t understand why I’d do this instead of just using my PC with a controller. Wifi streaming sucks, I’m not paying $200 for it

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      Not drain my cell battery or get interrupted from a call or text, have a much bigger screen than a phone, save you from trying to balance a tablet around on a bed or chair or recliner…

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      Doubt it. The bandwidth needed for VR is pretty high and when people do wireless PCVR setups, the rule of thumb is setting up a nearby fast WiFi 5 router just for the VR connection.