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    All this attention being paid to Keep is making me nervous. It’s the only Google product besides Gmail that I think is actually good nowadays and there’s a very good possibility that it’s because it hadn’t been significantly updated in a decade.

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        or even basic product management.

        Googe Wallet (2011) became Android Pay (2015) became Google Pay (2018) became Google Wallet (2022), except in some places. Also, except in the US (and maybe elsewhere?) where Google Pay is still around but just to send money between people.

        Google Talk (2005) and Google+ Messenger (2011) sort of became Google Hangouts (2013), which was part of Google+ (2011) which became Hangouts (2013), which became both Duo (2016) and Allo (2016) but then during both Duo and Allo became Hangouts Meet (2019) and Hangouts Chat (2019) which became Google Meet (2017 – Yes, Hangouts Meet was still around) and Google Chat (2017 – Yes, Hangouts Chat was still around). Google Allo died in 2018 and Duo died in 2022.

        Inbox (2015) became a better gmail Android app than gmail actually was. Inbox discontinued in 2019 with the advertisement that gmail integrated Inbox’s features (it didn’t add most of them). This spawned other 3rd party gmail handling apps to take its place.

        Google Play Music (2011) podcasts split into Google Podcasts (2018) stopped having releases in 2021 and rolled up/is rolling up into YouTube Music (2015). Google Play Music became YouTube Music in 2020.

        Right now there’s even Android Auto and Android Automotive simultaneously to pretty much do the same thing but are not the same. Android Automotive itself exists as Android Automotive with Google Automotive Services and also as Android Automotive without Google Automotive Services.

        Android Auto for Phone Screens was replaced with Google Assistant’s driving mode.

        There are many, many, many more crazy branding issues but I just don’t feel like continuing. Google has also killed at least 54 hardware lines, 59 apps and 210 services.

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          You didn’t even mention some of the best fragmenting stuff with those products. Like now Google Podcasts is being discontinued and rolled into Youtube Music. Or when SMS messaging was rolled into Hangouts… and then split back out into Google Messages.

          I own a WearOS device (Galaxy Watch 4). If you want to see Google at its most hilariously incoherent, buy one of those. Youtube Music for my watch is spectacularly broken. I thought it would be cool to go for a run with just my watch instead of having my phone clonking around in my pocket. Lol, nope, can’t download playlists, and can’t download any of my uploaded albums that start with letters after the letter “L” because it can’t list more than 100.

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          I think you left out the part about how there are currently 2 different apps in the Play Store called “Google Meet” with no obvious differentiation. And it’s been that way for months, since they deprecated Duo.

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    I already use keep as my shopping list on a note I share with my husband. Didn’t even know there was a separate Google shopping list, seems unnecessary.

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      Telling Google assistant to add items to your shopping list and them being added to a keep note titled “shopping list” was the original functionality in Google keep. I used this feature all the time which is great for someone like me who has ADD. Then without warning, Google decided to change the functionality so that it added the items to Google Express instead. It was a small change that caused a lot of inconvenience and headaches for me. There was a time I would have really cared about this change but considering the inconsistency of Google’s products, I really can’t get invested in them anymore. I try to degoogle my life as much as possible these days.

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        I’ve only had the assistant for a few years since moving into this house, but we selected Google Keep and still use it on a daily basis shared between my SO and I.

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      I think the issue is that Keep isn’t the default. If you use Assistant and create a shopping list, I assume that right now it will default to Tasks, and we all know that there’s significant inertia that comes with default settings.

      To change it to Keep, firstly you need to know that it’s even an option to change it, then you need to figure out how because it’s non-obvious.

      Talking to Assistant (via Nest for me) to add items to your shopping list in Keep works amazingly well. If you geotag lists, you can have your shopping list pop up automatically when you get to the store. It’s the future! (and it’s been here for years if you knew how). It’s crazy how few people know to do this.

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        That depends. When Google Assistant was Google Now it had a shopping list that was separated from Keep. Then there was a lot of confusion about which app to use when Assistant came out and replaced Google Now. So Google went ahead and made it so you could choose between the shopping List or Google Now. Then they sunsetted the shopping list app I believe (might be wrong there). Then they made it so you could choose between Keep and Tasks. If you were like me and made Keep the default you probably still have Keep as the default.

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        i was doing this stuff on windows phone with the good version of Cortana (before they shoehorned it into windows pc and completely ruined it)

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          One of the lesser-known gems of Windows Phone was Contact-based reminders. You could tie reminders to people and be reminded whenever you interact with them. I used it regularly. Has this been copied anywhere else??

          The specifics of their keyboard implementation were also really great. And that UI! The well-designed apps which followed their design language were so goddamn clean.

          WP had many unique ideas but was always on the outside looking in.

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    Maybe somewhere in all this stuffing about with Keep they can add the ability to sort lists.

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    Wtf, in Canada we don’t have the google express or whatever they switched to (I think). Instead lists and notes were stored within assistant using a terrible interface. So I switched to anylist and was quite happy with them. They’ve since killed integration with anylist to keep(again?). I’m sticking with anylist and have just decided to stop using assistant. There’s a nice widget I can throw on my home screen. Google seems intent on killing itself slowly and incompetently.

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    Great, it will now have a fraction of the features AnyList had, before Google killed the integration for no good reason