The virtual school says its hands are tied due to Florida’s “don’t say gay” law. However, the teacher has lodged a complaint against it.
“I was told that professor was not okay, Dr. was not okay for me because I didn’t have a Ph.D., but there are lots of people at FLVS who do use Dr., which, coincidentally, is also in violation of the same law I got disciplined for,” Vary said. They were told the other acceptable courtesy titles were Mrs., Ms., or Miss. Using “teacher” was also out of the question.“
“We’re going to refuse every attempt at compromise, and force you to choose between abandoning your principles or your career. Why? Because we’re bastards. Fuck you.”
Serious question, though: how does one pronounce Mx.?
Teacher should 100% be an option
Or get rid of these titles altogether, they don’t serve much of a purpose and I stopped using them a long time ago.
“Hello, human”
GREETING, EARTHLING
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What’s up meat bags
What if some people prefer to use them them? That seems counterproductive if you respect how people want to be referred.
No why would we force or encourage other people to NOT use their preferred titles. If there are no practical downsides, just let people do what they want.
The thread shows there are downsides.
I’ve skimmed the thread and I don’t see any compelling reasons. Could you cite some?
I am 100% supportive of trans rights, but using precious political will, energy and attention to pressure non trans people to stop using gendered titles is a hugely divisive distraction.
That the thread exists shows that there are downsides (to expand upon what I meant). I would say my perspective is that if you remove the barriers we have imposed upon ourselves, there is less to divide. Removal of gendered labelling for bathrooms, and making Mr/Ms/Miss/Mrs (which is inherently biased against women) obsolete would allow for names to take precedence instead of your ‘status’.
The existence of the thread is not an argument. Thats just intellectually dishonest. You wouldn’t tolerate such lazy argumentation from someone who says that they want to impose gendered titles, and the existence of a thread discussing it is “proof” enough.
You’ve now provided a different argument: you claim it removes divisions. Except this is very divisive. Just leave people alone: let people use their gendered titles, and let others not use them!
Serious question, though: how does one pronounce Mx.?
I use it and pronounce it like “Mix”
There has to be someone with the last name of Tape using this somewhere right.
the term you’re looking for is “schwa” or ə
it’s the neutral vowel sound that marks an unstressed syllable.
I always pronounced it with a soft x like ‘Mish’
I usually hear it as “mix”.
We’re going to refuse every attempt at compromise, and force you to choose between abandoning your principles or your career.
Remembers me of something we’ve already heard, at least in EU, a couple of years ago.
Huh. What? Maybe it’s stuck in my subconscious. I don’t remember it.
I keep reading it as Mixter.
That exactly without the ter
Mixter and Mixus, much like theydies and gentlethem.
Doesn’t MX also stand for motocross? Like XC for crosscountry?
Motocross Frizzle kinda suits Ms. Frizzle
It’s mex as in tex mex, duh
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Nothing says “small government” quite like being fired from your job because of your name.
Small government for rich, white
landbusiness owners.Big brother for everyone else.
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Small gov’t has always meant a consolidation of power, so things are easy to control.
Seems like a first amendment violation to me, but then again I’m not a Bible thumping fascist
Also 14th and 19th, plus the Civil Rights Act. A non-corrupt SCOTUS would toss the Florida law immediately, but absent a couple minutes under Warren we have never had one of those.
Seems like a first amendment violation to me
Never fear, those “conservatives” who are such responsible stewards of taxpayer dollars will gladly waste them to defend any forthcoming lawsuits.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences
It’s literally freedom from persecution from the government which is exactly what happened here. Stop parroting shit you’ve heard without understanding what it means
I see you made a new account just to be a bigot. Get lost you fucking pussy
They were told the other acceptable courtesy titles were Mrs., Ms., or Miss. Using “teacher” was also out of the question.
After being denied Teacher, Professor, or Dr. as the title (the last because they did not have a PhD even though evidently others in the school go by Dr. without a PhD without discipline). And note that “Mr.” was apparently not an option?
The school’s hands weren’t tied. They appear enthusiastic.
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Only if it’s approved
Only if the speech is conservative
Also Florida: “Why do we have such a teacher shortage?”
I had no idea Mx was a thing
Well now you know so if you meet someone using Mx you won’t knee jerk fire them.
I had a brainfart and thought this had something to do with MX linux. Carry on…
It has to be the stupidest thing I’ve read all day
I’m getting to that age where there’s shit that’s weird and I “don’t get it”. My reaction to “Mx” is a resounding “… alright”.
It doesn’t effect, inconvenience, or cost me anything to say. I can think of no good reason not to address someone “Mx” if they ask me to.
How do you even say it, what is its purpose, why does it matter? All of the possible ways I can think of pronouncing this sound absolutely stupid, same with fucking Latinx. There’s no actual way to pronounce the fuckin word
I know it’s too late, but how about “Coach _____”?
How about basic respect?
I’m not trying to be negative but shouldn’t coach be reserved for people who actually coach something? I think teacher should have been available.
How about sensei?
Senpai
Thank you
Paging Bostock v. Clayton County
“I was told that professor was not okay, Dr. was not okay for me because I didn’t have a Ph.D., but there are lots of people at FLVS who do use Dr., which, coincidentally, is also in violation of the same law I got disciplined for,” Vary said. They were told the other acceptable courtesy titles were Mrs., Ms., or Miss. Using “teacher” was also out of the question.
Mx. is a confusing title. How is it pronounced? “X” is an obnoxious letter choice to try to genericize gender.
But the article shows this teacher tried several other reasonable titles, like “professor” and “teacher” that were also denied. That’s ridiculous, and clearly just targeting them.
Made up titles are fucking stupid.
Here’s an idea- let’s not care if it’s fucking stupid and call people what they want to be called?
Call me big master pimpin’. I will request you be fired if you do not
I want to be addressed as “your highness”, can you do that for me? Would be pretty bigoted if you don’t, just saying
Here’s a better idea why don’t the few conform with the masses rather than the other way around. That’s some bullshit I’ll never do.
You want people to conform more? Do you live in the 1950s? This is 2023 when people have the freedom to express themselves and identify as who they want to identify as. Get out of the 20th century.
I am also one of those people and I will never recognize any of that other than ridiculous ultra left bullshit. People have freedom to play make believe, I have the freedom to not participate in their foolishness.
A precious summer child who thinks that this is ultra left wing.
“I just want to live in a centralised commune, where the concept of currency doesn’t exist… but Mx? Well I’m not that ultra left.”
Yes, you can also never recognize that “f*g” and “n****r” are not acceptable in society anymore and still use them. You have the freedom to do that too. You have the freedom to be as big an asshole as you want to be.
But you shouldn’t have that freedom to fire people over how they express themselves.
Enjoy your bigotry. You seem very proud of it.
Could someone change this kids diaper.? Never stops crying.
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Not exactly a controversial opinion from your demographic
I agree. I would go further in saying that most people would agree it’s just plain ridiculous.
I would go further than that and assert that when you say most people, because of your specific demographic, you really just mean the people you know, who are outside of the range of groups actually accepting the kind of change you’re against.
In a way, you’re right. Most people that you find to be rational would agree that it’s just plain ridiculous. It’s just that the groups that you don’t find rational are growing and the groups that agree with your mindset are shrinking.
The evidence of that can be found by just observing how often this kind of thing happens at all. It used to not happen. Now it does enough to make news kind of often.
All titles are “made up,” and Mx. as an honorific has been around for almost fifty years. A better question would be why our two main honorifics for people are so pointlessly gendered.
It has barely any history prior to 10 years ago. Just because some nobody said it once in the 1970’s doesn’t mean its been colloquially around for 50 years. The source of it “being around from the 1970’s” is a dubious article written in 2015. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/11597192/Whats-it-like-to-be-a-Mx.html
Your claim as to its history is simply not true, and its use has, obviously, been mostly limited to the community that generated it. Did you expect Ronald Reagan to use it in his inauguration speech?
Other than that, I don’t see what point you’re actually trying to make here.
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You just read an article about a non-binary person, so I think we can assume they are, indeed, “a thing.” Something tells me you don’t interact with a lot of queer people anyways, so your acceptance of their terms of address feels pretty irrelevant.
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How do you avoid yourself?
There’s words that develop organically and then there’s words that people make up to validate the feelings of women who would have been emos like 10 years ago. Neopronouns and titles like this are stupid and no person outside the progressive bubble will ever use them.
Organically developed, like, a community making a new word that fills a lexical need to describe a concept? Sounds a lot like “Mx.” to me. What’s stupid about it?
Organically developed
making a new word
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