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      That phone will also get updates. There’s a difference between updates by Samsung and updates of Google Play services delivered through Play Store which include the web renderer.

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        Doesn’t the article state specifically that it won’t? The iPhone 11 is like to get at least another two years of major OS upgrades, and further security updates after that.

        It’s nice that some Android manufacturers have promised to provide updates for their phones for a longer period, but it’s something iPhone users have been expecting for years already.

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          The article doesn’t mention Play Services at all. Off the top of my head I think Play Services get updates for around 10 years but I would need to check to be sure.

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            Yep, that’s a clickbait title. People forgot or don’t know that Samsung is just a part of long-term security updates. If you run on Android 11+, Google will also involved with your phone security updates as they are the one making the modular system updates that are separate from OEMs.

            Also “will no longer get updates” is totally wrong, that’s minimum guaranteed updates, not maximum updates that actually happen with your phone if you ever own a phone for really long duration, especially with Android 11+.

            You can check most Android phones these days uses a thing called “Google Play system update”. As your phone gets higher Android version if possible, the more modules can be updated. And with Galaxy Fold running Android 12, you can update as deep as critical components like ART and many others without Samsung ever involved. https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2023/08/latest-artwork-on-hundreds-of-millions-of-devices.html

            Blame Google for making sh*t OS that is hard to update (they fixed that a bit since A10+), not really Samsung’s fault.

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              Google could easily mandate that their OEMs have to conform to a hardware standard that would enable it to install generic Android versions (be it ARM ServerReady or a spec more suited to mobile devices). Updating many components through Play Store is good for many things but it’s indeed not perfect either.

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        But no security updates for the OS though which often means you kinda should think about to stop using it for more than an alarm clock, podcasts and spotify.

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          Play Services will still update the web renderer and such. Those are the most crucial updates. It’s not Armageddon when the OEM stops updating their Android base.

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            Not so quick, you can’t say with any logic that OS and security updates aren’t FAR more important than a web renderer. Exploits are regularly found that go back multiple OS versions all the time. Not getting an OS update isn’t the end of the world, but when a phone no longer gets security patches, time to replace it.

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              The web is usually the prime attack vector, therefore updates to the web renderer are the most important. Many other features are in Play Services as well.

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                That’s literally like saying because people typically break into houses from the back door, that you don’t need to keep the front locked. People self exploit themselves through many avenues, web is only one, compromised apps that act as Trojans, email attachments, fake links to verify/confirm accts, responding to some BS SMS that has them go to accts online. The “most important” would be a patched OS that would resist the attack regardless of entry point.

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          Most crucial things are in Play Services anyway. I’m not saying that it’s no issue at all but it’s also far from as bad as some make it out to be.

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      Until it breaks and you can’t repair it, which is far more likely to happen before you stop receiving updates, making it a moot point.