I realize this is a divisive issue, but it’s clear that these horrific incidents are going to keep happening with shocking regularity. It seems we’ve all collectively shrugged our shoulders and accepted it as the reality going forward.

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      1 year ago

      I won’t be able to pull a gun and fire bullets at someone in the amount of time who (by your logic) doesn’t have a gun?

      No, I’m saying that if you get attacked by someone with a gun it doesn’t matter if you have one yourself or not. So the argument that you can’t ban guns because you need one for defense is bullshit.

      Tell me in the following scenario’s when exactly you are going to grab your gun to defend yourself. I’m going to assume for this that you have a gun on you 24/7 in a holster with the safety on.

      Scenario 1: You’re lying in bed sleeping. Suddenly you find yourself at the pearly gates (someone snuck into your house and shot you in your sleep).

      Scenario 2: You’re walking down the street. Suddenly you’re facing Saint Peter (someone shot you in the back while you were walking down the street).

      Scenario 3: You’re at home, watching TV. It’s dark outside and you have the lights in your living room on. Suddenly you’re sitting on a cloud playing a harp. (Someone shot you through your window)

      Scenario 4: You’re in a bar, having a beer. Suddenly you’re sipping bourbon with Jesus. (someone stepped through the door of your favorite bar and emptied his AR-15 into the crowd).

      Scenario 5: You’re stopped at a traffic light. Someone knocks on your window and you stare into the barrel of a gun, they tell you to get out of the car. You reach for your gun instead; you’re dead before your hand even gets close to the holster.

      If someone is targeting you specifically, you are dead, they will attack at a moment you don’t expect it. You won’t even have time to realize what’s happening. Even if you know you are a target a personal firearm is not going to do you any good, you need a 24/7 security detail and basically live in a bunker.

      In the case of a random attack, you’re either too close and get hit before you can respond, or you’re going GTFO and get as far away from the shooter as you can. You may fantasize about being the hero who stopped the shooter, but you know as well as I do that’s not what’s going to happen.

      But the real question is: why do you live in constant fear? Why are you so afraid of being attacked? Does this actually happen? How many times in an average week do you need to use your gun in self defense?

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        1 year ago

        I’m not afraid of being attacked…because I have a gun.

        I’m not worried about the scenarios where they are out to get me. Honestly how many times does THAT scenario happen? Rarely if ever. I’m worried about the scenarios where someone wants to take what is mine and infiltrate my property. Someone looting, someone trying to steal something from my house, someone being where they shouldn’t be.

        Looting happens all the time. Stealing happens all the time. Breaking and entering happens all the time. So what should I do in that scenario?

        You still haven’t actually answered my question. If it doesn’t matter if I have a gun or not and a crazy person is coming after me regardless, why can’t I have the gun…if you say it doesn’t matter.