• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    Well, 100,000 defensive gun uses is more than 12,000 intentional homicides by 88,000, that’s how. That’s 88,000 times someone DID NOT become a victim of violence because THEY had a gun of their own, and that is the low estimate.

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      1 year ago

      Ok, that’s the number for the USA, how does that compare to other countries? If the number show that even with more guns there’s more crime then it’s clear that guns aren’t the solution, isn’t it?

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        Here’s the thing about other countries: There are other variables! Crazy I know, but things like healthcare and wealth inequality and our shit ass school system that more often than not syphons money to the school board while the rest of the country suffers, actually also play a part. Funny how that works.

        Source on that? Cause by everything I’ve seen the estimate of crime with gun regardless of injury is 80,000/yr which is still less than 100,000.

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          1 year ago

          Alright, I’m glad to see that we agree that what’s needed isn’t guns then, it’s to solve the underlying issues. Happy to see you changed your mind. Good talk! Have fun!

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            Lol, no, me making fun of your ridiculous definition of “need” is the complete opposite of agreeing. I prefer the definition the rest of the world uses, y’know, the nondelusional people.

            https://www.wordnik.com/words/need

            noun A condition or situation in which something must be supplied in order for a certain condition to be maintained or a desired state to be achieved. noun Something required or wanted; a requisite. noun Necessity; obligation. noun A condition of poverty or misfortune. intransitive verb To be under the necessity of or the obligation to. intransitive verb To have need of; require. intransitive verb To have an obligation (to do something). intransitive verb To be subject (to an action) by obligation. intransitive verb To want to be subject to. intransitive verb To be in need or want. intransitive verb To be necessary.

            Not one of those mentions “will die without.” That’s you. You aren’t the arbiter of definitions no matter what your delusions of grandeur convince you of.