If I don’t clickbait the title people don’t click.

With the recent events happening in Gaza, I decided to first tackle this line of argument in my essay Zionism is antisemitism, and Palestine.

People were quick to say “yes Israel is bad, but Hamas…” (kidnapped 200 people, killed 1000, take your pick).

When you’re saying this, you’re actually saying that one israeli is worth 7 Palestinians. Read that again if you need to; it’s an ethnosupremacist position.

What is the logical conclusion of this argument? What is it supposed to achieve except convey empty platitudes and declaring to the world that you just don’t care enough to have any valuable input?

It’s fine not to care. I’m not your dad, I’m not going to try and change you.

But don’t declare it publicly. Don’t proudly say “well actually both sides are bad”. You don’t look smarter or wiser than anyone else who is taking a clear stance. You’re not taking the “middle ground”. Everyone who has taken sides and is trying to be productive about this (and not just the Gaza genocide, but really any situation where you can apply “both sides”) really doesn’t have time for this holier-than-thou bullshit.

Gaza “kidnapped” 200 settlers and that’s a war crime apparently. It’s not really, but whatever. Let’s say it is. Israel has killed 7000+ Palestinians in retaliation, now likely more than 10k as they cut off communications in Gaza last night.

Both sidesers: what’s your solution to this. If you say anything other than “I should not get involved” then you don’t actually believe both sides are bad and you are picking a side. It’s time you realize where you stand.

  • TWeaK@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Shame on them for having children? Shame on them for being born into a country that their parents/grandparents/great grandparents settled into?

    Israelis have literally made the same argument in defence of killing Palestinian children. If one side is right in its argument, then so must the other - but they can’t both be right, so both statements can only be wrong.

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        1 year ago

        That’s a reasonable position. The IDF is something of a kool aid factory.

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        1 year ago

        How many people are living in North-, Central- and South America? Do you know any (children) there? Do you believe they should all be killed? Where should they move to?

        • 🏳️‍⚧️ 新星 [she/they]@lemmygrad.ml
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          You’ve been banned and your comments are in the process of being purged by the admins, so I’ll try to be quick.

          Nobody here is advocating for the death of all people in Israel, the US. That’s not what we mean when we say things like “Death to America”. We’re talking about the state.