• SCB@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Buddy of mine straight up laughed at his boss when they told him to return to office, and strangely it has never come up again.

    When you know the value you bring, it’s hard to muscle you around.

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      I’ve seen a lot of people with that attitude still get let go. I’ve fired people with huge ego’s that were extremely valuable to operations that really thought they were untouchable. As good as you think you are, there’s someone else just as good or better that will take your place.

      That being said, fuck working for someone that doesn’t respect you, or makes demands of you purely because they want to flex on you.

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        There are 1.5-2 jobs for every worker right now, depending on area. Top talent can laugh at most RTO processes.

        I do agree on cocky dicks who think they’re totally untouchable tho. This wasn’t that.

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          Overall, employers hold almost all the power in their relationships over employees.

          Depending on individual and conditions, some may find themselves with the privilege of slightly improved bargaining power, but no assumption is stable or reliable, and ultimately employers have the final word. A company always may find other workers more easily than, in the greater balance, individuals may find other job positions.

          Workers have no inherent or intrinsic value in the relationship. Companies value workers only for their labor, and do so under systems of labor commodification captured beneath the whims of the market.

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            A company always may find other workers more easily than, in the greater balance, individuals may find other job positions.

            This (emphasis mine, for clarity) is not accurate. There are currently more jobs than people, and people of certain positions have enormous power in job negotiations.

            Companies value workers only for their labor

            And workers only value companies for the pay. This isn’t really an argument about anything

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              Your quote mining is not honest.

              A job opening being posted offers no important information about the situation inside any company, nor about the count of applications that have been received, nor the count that has been ignored or rejected.

              For most of us, not having a job represents having a much higher risk of death. The conditions of workers are essentially conditions of work or die.

              If you think workers have as much bargaining power as companies, then you are, frankly, deluded. You may personally not notice the depth of the disparity, due to your having certain privileges, but you are still giving a distorted representation of your own conditions.

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        Oh the invaluable people do get fired. The problem is that the company never replace them, because they can’t be replaced.

        Their value is not in how smart or skilled they are but in how much they know of their work in the company. Most of this work is not documented and it can take a decade to build this knowledge.

        These people are key elements of the functioning of the company. You lose months of productivity each year simply because they’re not there, and you might even lose years of work that’s now unmaintainable.

        I don’t know, if companies are too arrogant to see that or if they’d rather have people who obey than a working company. I bet on the second though.