• FederatedSaint@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m disgusted that a few days ago some terrorists attacked a music festival and killed hundreds and you’re defending the terrorists. It sounds like you’ve been taken in by some propaganda yourself.

    If condemning terrorists attacking innocent people at a music festival means I’m a product of propaganda, then so be it.

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      1 year ago

      You’re absolutelly right in condemning terrorist attacks like that one.

      All terrorist attacks should be condemned, including ordering people to shelter in a specific place and bombing them as describe here.

      If your condemnation is indeed Principled, then all such acts of murder for the purposed of terrifying the rest are equally repugnant and you’ll condemn them equally no matter the “side” of those who did such disgusting acts.

      As Principle seems to be notably absent in how so many commenters have tackled the subject matter (with only some murders being important, not others, depending on which “side” did it), I pointed it out.

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      Let’s not forget that the act of using civilians as shields is a warcrime in the first place to prevent this kind of situation from occurring.

      If Israel tells Palestinian civilians to evacuate because there’s Hamas military targets in that building, and Hamas troops tell them no. Then they die, and Hamas can cry wolf.

      It would be Israel who is following international decorem and Hamas making it difficult for any country to support them.

      Just now, Austria cut off aid to the Gaza region. Is that Israel’s fault? Nope.

      Hamas had good PR going and they fucked it up by escalating with brutality.

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        1 year ago

        Cutting off power to Palestinians is also a war crime. Why are war crimes only bad when Palestine does them an not when Israel does them 5x as often?

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          Literally the first thing the US does in any engagement is cut the power.

          It’s not a war crime lol

          With certain limitations, parts of a country’s electrical grid can be considered legitimate targets if they are used to power military facilities. This is true even if the targets have a civilian as well as a military purpose, so long as destroying the object would “offer a definite military advantage”

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            1 year ago

            Israeli authorities’ cutting off electricity to Gaza and other punitive measures against Gaza’s civilian population would amount to unlawful collective punishment, which is a war crime, said the Human Rights Watch on 9 October.

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              Human Rights Watch is an activist group with no authority.

              You are free to agree or disagree with them. Clearly I disagree here, but I do agree with their condemnation of the Palestinian attacks.

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            As if the US gives a single fuck about war crimes. If we did, at least 5 people from George W. Bush’s administration would be rotting in prison right now.

            Yes, it’s still a war crime when we do it.

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      1 year ago

      That terrorist attack has already happened, and there’s another terrorist attack underway, this time with cassette munitions and white phosphorus and in general very different capabilities, done by another side.

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        1 year ago

        Attacking kids at a music festival? Or attacking a terrorist organization? Your false equivalency is despicable.

        Just admit it. You hate Jewish people. Stop pretending there is some moral equivalent for Hamas attacking and indiscriminately killing innocent people, and Israel trying to stamp out an entrenched terror cell that is using their people as meat shields to somehow manipulate people like you into thinking they’re the good guys. 🙄