• TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
    773·
    1 year ago

    Fucking hilarious that the Republicans brought up the downgraded credit rating that they caused and pin it on Diamond Joe lmao.

    Fucking scum bags.

      • krashmo@lemmy.world
        29·
        1 year ago

        I bet the same people that have been buying this bullshit for the last 50 years are buying it now.

      • TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
        191·
        1 year ago

        Well, they’re supposed to just roll over and let them do what they want! How dare they ask for facts, reason, and properly ran debates! The temerity of it all!

        • NABDad@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          It’s more than that. Gallup just released pool results that make it look like Republicans could win big the next election.

          The USA as a group is astoundingly stupid.

          • Hoomod@lemmy.world
            2·
            1 year ago

            Polls also said the 2022 election was supposed to be a huge red wave, and instead dems kept the senate, and republicans only got a tiny majority in the house, one so small that they just had the first speaker ever voted out of the position

    • Empricorn@feddit.nl
      11·
      1 year ago

      The one thing Republican Kevin McCarthy dared to do that was over-the-line was to work with Democrats to avert shutdown for the sake of the country. But that was too much for the right-wing extremists, who caused this in the first place…

        • Empricorn@feddit.nl
          2·
          1 year ago

          I don’t understand what you’re saying. Yes, they voted with Democrats to remove him. That’s the entire context for my comment: they didn’t like that he dared to work with Democrats (for one moment) to avert a government shutdown.

          As for Democrats, they have learned that they can’t trust him as he’s gone back on his word and agreements multiple times, as Pramila Jayapal said in her statement.

  • kescusay@lemmy.world
    63·
    1 year ago

    It’s hilarious to hear Republican after Republican attack the Democrats over this ridiculousness, when they desperately need Democrats to vote not to vacate. They’re not doing their own arguments any favors.

  • NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world
    61·
    1 year ago

    Theodore Medad Pomeroy was elected as speaker on the last day of the 40th Congress on March 3, 1869. It was a gesture of respect and honor ahead of his retirement. He served one day as speaker, basically an honorary role, speaker for the day and then congres adjourned for the year. He was the shortest serving house speaker in US history. The second shortest serving house speaker is Kevin McCarthy.

  • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
    57·
    1 year ago

    On this day, McCarthy remembered – this is exactly what everyone said was going to happen and why no one understood why he wanted the position so badly.

  • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    471·
    1 year ago

    In a nutshell, here’s what happened. In January, McCarthy made an agreement with hardline conservatives, some of whose terms have never been made public, to ultimately secure their support as Speaker. In May, McCarthy made a (public) agreement with Democrats to set the federal budget at a certain level in order to avert a default on the national debt. In September, though, McCarthy (under pressure from hardliners) attempted to secure further funding cuts during negotiations over a potential government shutdown—then ultimately conceded to Democrats and helped pass a funding bill that largely did not include any of the cuts that the hardliners sought (which were cuts that McCarthy had originally, in May, told Democrats he wouldn’t seek).

    McCarthy has left both his party’s furthest-right members and the entire Democratic caucus with the belief that he cannot be trusted, which is why Democrats are expected to join Monday afternoon with hyper-aggressive Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz and at least five other conservatives in supporting a “motion to vacate the chair” in the House, i.e end McCarthy’s speakership. (Republicans currently hold 221 House seats to Democrats’ 212.)

    If that happens—and it’s a fluid situation—there’s no telling what will happen next. No other Republicans have actually said they want to be Speaker, which would put us roughly back where we were in January: With McCarthy holding enough support among Republicans that no one else is a plausible candidate to become Speaker, but not enough support to win a majority of the entire House, which is what’s required, and actually assume the position. (And yes, the House needs a Speaker.)

    • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      1 year ago

      If that happens—and it’s a fluid situation—there’s no telling what will happen next.

      That’s not strictly true. If there is no Speaker, then all the House can do is vote for one. So we know exactly what happens next. What we don’t know is who will end up with the job, or how long it will take to pick that person. It could be over on the first vote, or it could take days (even weeks).

        • Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de
          20·
          1 year ago

          Shitty time for the federal employees who are relying on these idiots to get their shit together and fund the govt another year, for sure.

          If you’re in a position to not be directly affected by that, though, it’s time for popcorn 🍿

    • Gork@lemm.ee
      4·
      1 year ago

      If that happens—and it’s a fluid situation—there’s no telling what will happen next. No other Republicans have actually said they want to be Speaker, which would put us roughly back where we were in January

      Let’s hope it’s not Marjorie Taylor Greene…

  • jeffw@lemmy.worldEnglish
    471·
    1 year ago

    We have like 40 days to figure out a new speaker and then find the govt. it was hard enough to pick one the first time. This isn’t going to end well

    • TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
      38·
      1 year ago

      It’s not that hard. Dems just need to pick a republican who isn’t a complete piece of shit…oh wait. It is going to be hard.

      • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
        5·
        1 year ago

        Maybe the progressive bloc of the Dems should pull a freedom caucus and hold the party hostage until we get someone decent as speaker. I know that won’t work for a million and one reasons but a man can dream

    • clif@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 year ago

      I don’t have time to go looking and I don’t really know anyone else who does.

      … So who the hell is going to find it? Hell, who lost it in the first place? Make them find it, I’m busy over here.

      … ; )

    • Heresy_generator@kbin.social
      141·
      1 year ago

      [Oversight?!? We haven’t even subpoenaed a private citizen with literally nothing to do with the government!]

  • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    451·
    1 year ago

    Update: House Democratic leadership will vote yes on the pending Republican Motion to Vacate the Chair

  • NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world
    401·
    1 year ago

    McCarthy gets ousted by his own party, somehow manages to blame Democrats. Speaking to the press just now:

    “I think today was a political decision by the Democrats. And I think I think the things they have done in the past hurt the institution,” he said.

    What a piece of shit, good riddance. The 45 daystop gap funding bill he put on the floor for a vote an hour after it was introduced, leaving Dems no time to read 77 page bill to see if it had poison pills they couldn’t vote for. Classy guy. Just today it was reported he was refusing to postpone votes on Thursday so membera could attend Dianne Feinstein’s funeral.

    The new guy doesn’t seem to be any better:

    As one of his first acts as the acting speaker, Rep. Patrick McHenry ordered former Speaker Nancy Pelosi to vacate her Capitol hideaway office by Wednesday, according to an email sent to her office viewed by POLITICO.

    “Please vacate the space tomorrow, the room will be re-keyed,” wrote a top aide on the Republican-controlled House Administration Committee. The room was being reassigned by the acting speaker “for speaker office use,” the email said.

    Only a select few House lawmakers get hideaway offices in the Capitol, compared to their commonplace presence in the Senate.

    The former speaker blasted the eviction in a statement as “a sharp departure from tradition,” adding that she had given former Speaker Dennis Hastert “a significantly larger suite of offices for as long as he wished” during her tenure.

    Pelosi didn’t even vote today, she was in SF with Fienstein. But don’t let that get in the way of partisan bullshit. And she said she won’t be able to pack up by Wednesday for the same reason. Fucking gouls.

    • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
      10·
      1 year ago

      Oh McCarthy must have an intense fury for Republicans right now, he just doesn’t want to add fuel to the fire.

      I mean it’s a giant wildfire so it doesn’t really matter but it’s still funny to see him kneeling to them.

      • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        1 year ago

        Lol, give it a half minute, it’s coming. First he has to promise every GOP congressperson everything they ask for before they even vote for him, and then they have to have countless rounds of votes before he finally promises enough to get a solid lead, and then they’ll rip him out of office.

    • paintbucketholder@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 year ago

      Never mind that the only role he has as Speaker pro tempore is facilitating the election of a new Speaker. He doesn’t have the power to rule on any other House business that isn’t very narrowly and very specifically tied to that one, single purpose.

      But then again, we’re talking about a Republican here, so power grabbing moves are par for the course.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    32·
    1 year ago

    so basically they now have 45 days to pass a CR or the Republicans will shut down the government again and 20 of those days will be spent picking a new speaker…

    • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
      30·
      1 year ago

      20 days to pick a new speaker

      24 days to argue about the bill within their own party

      1 day for the speaker to hastily save the party from owning another shutdown

      7 days for that speaker to be kicked out

      • portifornia@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        I feel like there’s a “On the first day of Christmas legislation, the GOP gave to me…” carol, ripe for the singing, here!

  • TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
    29·
    1 year ago

    Holy fucking gaslighting, Batman!

    These fuckers live in an alternate universe.

    Will the democrats get a chance to speak? If so, all they have to do is say, “This is what you get when you vote for republicans”

    • PeleSpirit@lemmy.worldEnglish
      151·
      1 year ago

      They’re so fucking dumb. Gaetz sounds like the smartest in the room, we’re fucked.

  • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
    291·
    1 year ago

    Anyone else note the timing of this, in terms of ongoing chaos in Congress?

    No sooner is there a fix in sight for the looming shutdown, caused by a specific group of legislators who have no interest in legislating, than another crisis is just as artificially created by one of those same non-legislating legislators, one that will bring US government yet again to a screeching halt while everyone enjoys the show.

    I want to know how much these assholes are getting paid to be Putin’s crisis actors, because it’s not even remotely deniable anymore. Their sole purpose in government is to ensure they stop as much of it from happening as possible, and the means by which they gain and now hold office – right-wing emotive propaganda – is paid for by Putin as well.

    While everyone else is enjoying the show, I’m sitting here wondering how much of it is a foreign-based test run for something else.

    • Taako_Tuesday@lemmy.ca
      211·
      1 year ago

      I don’t doubt that putin’s interest is in creating disruption in the US, but I think the much louder call is coming from inside the house. American corporations and the wealthy benefit greatly from a congress that is too crisis-ridden to regulate them.

      • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        I hear you, but Corporate America has been playing that same game non-stop since the Reagan administration, and the 1%ers still have to have some level of functional governance to get their tax breaks and federal handouts when they want them. It’s a louder call maybe, but not an emergency dial like the artificially created shutdown was and this new speaker drama is.

        This specific level of constant crisis/open non-governance is pretty new, IMO.

        However, it does look like the current House rules provide for an immediate speaker pro tempore, who will act until the beginning of the January session and an actual vote taking place, so this is not as much of a crisis as I thought it was going to be, with a replacement vote held immediately.

        It’s still not good, though. The shutdown was not averted, only postponed for 45 days. Cthulhu help us.