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    Literal SS divisions and Bandera’s band of sadistic mass murderers were not right wing extremists according to the German government, nor are the Azov thugs with swastika tattoos, and anyone who dares to challenge this official narrative is a left wing extremist, Putinist, and an enemy of freedom and democracy. This is not an exaggeration, you can look this up: all the actual (non-socdem) left wing parties in Germany are on government watch lists and are considered a threat against the constitutional order. But they dare to claim that the DDR was a totalitarian police state. The BRD is just a continuation of Nazi Germany.

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      But they dare to claim that the DDR was a totalitarian police state.

      Meanwhile, we are now under infinitely more invasive and omnipresent surveilance than anything the Stasi ever did.

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        I agree, and as well I think it’s relevant to consider what was historically considered invasive and omnipresent at that point in history is not necessarily the same as now.

        I guess I’m thinking, like, are current governments similarly using the full extent of surveillance? And is it something knowable? As well, how’s the investment and expansion of that surveillance been done then and now?

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          We know what technology has made possible. Phones can be turned on at the government’s request. DNS servers can log everyone’s activities. ISP’s can monitor what IP addresses one can go to. Phone conversations can also be monitored by police with sting rays. Medical records can be transferred by bad actors because of holes in the HIPAA rules that don’t protect privacy.

          The beehive exists: https://nsa.gov1.info/utah-data-center/ where they store all kinds of data, including encrypted can be monitored. Also now quantum computing has been unlocked by both the US and China so many forms of encryption can be cracked.

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      West Germany previously too had much more expensive and expansive oppression aparatus than East but somehow East is called “totalitarian”.

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      fascism was already set before the ukraine war, but i get your point, one particular form of fascism is being normalized via anti-russia propaganda

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    The Ukraine War is the modern WW3 version of the Spanish Civil War.

    All the majors get to fight each other discretely, test out all their new toys in the field, and support fascism abroad without risking anything domestically.

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      Not to mention the more left-wing side of voters in Ukraine are overwhelmingly Donetsk and Lugansk voters. More than 25% in these states voted for the communist party of ukraine in the last election, and guess who voted for the nationalists? Except this time it won’t be like spain, the fascists won’t win.

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      It’s crazy caus a few years from there the consensus went from “the dark truth about nazism is that a lot of people supported it” to “not all handpicked elite third reich armed men were nazis”

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        Hitler wasn’t a Nazi, just an artist and a veteran who became a center right populist. The Left will call anyone a Nazi these days…

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    You ever have one of those days where you recognize the Axis reforming and have this all-encompassing existential dread wash over you when you realize you won’t be able to escape in time and definitely aren’t armed enough

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        I bout made my peace with dying here when I realized that anywhere I’d actually want to go and still use my trained skillset will not take me because I’m already coming in broken. Like, I’d have to literally commit fraud concealing pre-existing conditions to properly emigrate-- assuming I even managed to stack about 100 g’s in 5 years just to account for a one-way out, exit fee, and living arrangements on the other side.

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          Damn, that’s truly terrible and unfair. I’m sure there are ways to illegally emigrate and have a decent life but yea I’m sure they’re expensive or otherwise very difficult. I’ve kind of just accepted this place might be my violent grave because I have no marketable skills and a romanticized deathwish. I hope you find some luck escaping. I will say if I personallt tried to escape I might be more inclined to look somewhere like Mexico etc.rather than China etc., not only convenience and easier to cross unnoticed but for me personally it would be a lot easier to grasp the culture/language.

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      I think I’m not understanding, would the Axis in this case have the same membership as in the past, or consist of a mix of old and new members?

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    Send it to a German fellow I know, he called it ragebait and dismissed the org as “originating from DDR as a youth org brainwashing children for totalitarian regime”.

    Welp.

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      The German left is probably as broken and coopted as in the US. Most didn’t even care when a court essentially declared anti-capitalism of any kind unconstitutional by pointing to the constitutions enshrining of property rights.

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        Junge Welt is one of the most serious and consistently dependable leftist publications in Germany. They have an excellent track record of being on the correct side of historical and contemporary political issues. What sets them apart from other ostensibly “leftist” but more system-compatible media is that they are actually principled anti-imperialists and not socdem euro-chauvinists, and because of this liberals need to smear them by association with the DDR (though for me personally as a communist that is a badge of honor and only serves to reinforce their credibility and their anti-imperialist credentials).

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          Well this is good to know, but that also cements my fears which was bound to happen eventually.

          Also, fun fact: every time I see DDR I read it as Dance Dance Revolution.

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    Getting really concerned about how the fourth reich is gonna manifest…and gonna be real with you guys, I didn’t think Germany was gonna go for round 3 (but this time if they do, the Western powers have decided to back this horse this time around).