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      Granted, they did start using the swastika 20 years before the Germans did. But the fact they didn’t change it during or after the war is very telling.

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      I don’t know if you’re joking or uninformed but that cross logo came from a Swedish count who donated the first plane to Finland in 1918. It’s not Nazi imaginery.

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            I don’t know if you noticed the 1918 there. I’m not sure even proto-Nazis were around that time.

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              Hitler joined the party that would become the Nazis in 1919. Von Rosen met Hitler in like 1922.

              This little shell game you’re trying to play with the dates is super gross.

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                As far as I know time moves in just one direction and those dates are after 1918. I’m sorry, I’m not trying to gross you out on purpose. I just don’t understand calling it a Nazi symbol for how it was used after Finnish Air Force adopted it. To me it seems clear that if it was adopted before those things existed/happened then how could they have adopted a Nazi symbol?

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                    I think if we consider those Aryan purity people proto-Nazis (and I think we can) then I admit to being wrong about proto-Nazis being around.

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                  As far as I know time moves in just one direction and those dates are after 1918.

                  I was refuting your claim that Nazism wasn’t around at the time.

                  To me it seems clear that if it was adopted before those things existed/happened then how could they have adopted a Nazi symbol?

                  And what’s your excuse for it’s continued use after 1920, when it publicly became a Nazi symbol?

                  Did they just not have paint, and wanted to be polite to the guy who donated 1 plane?

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                    I was refuting your claim that Nazism wasn’t around at the time.

                    The time was 1918 and you cited stuff from 1919 and 1922?

                    And what’s your excuse for it’s continued use after 1920, when it publicly became a Nazi symbol?

                    I’d imagine they didn’t want to change their logo because of some German party, at least first.

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                That’s where it started but I wouldn’t call him a proto-Nazi at that point. But in any case, point was that when the symbol was adopted, it had nothing to do with Nazis. Unless something being Nazi is some sort of transitive property, traveling back through the chain to 1918.

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          Two decades after Finnish air force had adopted it. Saying it’s Nazi imaginery based on that would seem a bit strange, like the property of something being Nazi travels back in time.