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Years upon years of pro-capitalist propaganda is a helluva drug.
Apparently years upon years of tankie propaganda is also a drug.
What if I told you there were a lot of folks who hate both tankies and capitalism.
In fact, most anti-capitalists are also anti-authoritarian, which leaves them out of the tankie camp.
For example, me.
Hello there, fellow anti-capitalist anti-tankie
I’m gonna list all the good and progressive things about North Korea that America needs to emulate if it wants to stop being a Capitalist Demon Machine
Thank you for reading my list!
Please give a warning for whiplash
!Also, put a bullet point to start a list, because the empty paragraph doesn’t appear on my end. If you want to that is!<
Cool, but then you’re just a naive utopia dreamer. Capitalism is the best system we have right now, and it pays for a lot of social programs, can it be better sure but acting like communism is better is just flat out stupid.
Margaret Thatcher, is that you?
I thought she was dead, with her grave thoroughly urinated upon.
grave thoroughly urinated on
Shit, I guess people found an alternative after all
Yep, no room to innovate anywhere, everything everywhere has already been tried and capitalism won.
No propaganda here.
Social programs? But… that’s socialism !
Capitalism is the best system we have right now
Citation needed. Also, curious how capitalist countries are always so eager to stomp down any attempt at trying a different system, almost as if the rich really don’t want you to even believe a different system is possible 🤔
and it pays for a lot of social programs
It doesn’t pay, it steals. Social programs under capitalism are possible only by exploiting the global south.
Cool, but then you’re just a naive utopia dreamer.
Not wanting to be robbed by bosses and landlords is utopia, now? And you talk about it as if it was some theory that was never tried. Libertarian socialism already exists.
can it be better sure but acting like communism is better is just flat out stupid.
Because…? Can you even define what you mean with ‘communism’, or is it just some nebulous threat you got programmed to be afraid of? Not all socialists are Stalinists, which is what you seem to be implying…
Its fucking dumb to assume that the only other alternative is communism.
Living in a tribe in the jungle is better than capitalism because it’s not literally destroying the world. If you’re willing to consider utopian capitalism, then a utopia based on ideas that can theoretically work should be even easier.
Huh?
A big meteor strike would be worse for most life on earth than even the climate crisis, and that will happen, sooner or later. In order to prevent that, you need a pretty high tech level.
Yes and no. Yes by the time it would likely be detected on a collision course with Earth, at present, even the greatest minds can’t theorize a method to neutralize an asteroid => 5km in diameter that doesn’t cause an extinction event with the technology available to us right now.
However, if it were detected soon enough there may be more tenable options for preventing an impact event that are not futile. The problem is we don’t have nearly enough resources monitoring deep space for our inevitable destruction and with a lot of our space tech now being privatized in the US it will be more difficult because there’s no profit incentive to being prepared for our doom. At least now that NASA is active again there will be an obvious taxpayer incentive to literally preventing our own annihilation…lol
Edit to add article about early detection: https://www.planetary.org/defending-the-earth-from-impacts#:~:text=We can stop asteroids from,tends to focus on asteroids.
The point is you aren’t going to stop an asteroid if you’re living in a tribe in the jungle.
Capitalism is naivest utopia. There is no invisible limbs, monopoly will eventually form.
And people who thinks it’s either capitalism or communism are dumb fucks.
Authoritarianism is the real cancer upon society
It’s not the ‘-isms’, my guy.
It’s people. Flawed beings making and interacting with flawed systems.
It takes people to enact policies around the -isms and to make the -isms themselves, so I dont really see the logic here.
It takes people to enact policies around the -isms and to make the -isms themselves
The OP said “…-ism is the real cancer upon society”. I was pointing out that people are the real cancer of society. It doesn’t matter what “-ism” you want to stand behind, there will always be issues because humanity is fundamentally broken.
humanity is fundamentally broken
I’d argue that humanity and an -ism aren’t that different in this context – arbitrary linguistic form aside, they both refer to abstract collectives.
But ultimately, I still don’t see the logic in separating humanity from the systems it created and uses. Fixing one fixes the other, in bilateral fashion.
Thinking that memes like this aren’t just tankies who think the ussr was a tragic loss is hilarious. This is tankie shit.
You do know the USSR was a country and not a political ideology, right?
You’re an idiot if you think my comment on the USSR collapsing was talking about a political ideology…
If I see some I’ll let you know.
President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
The worst hot take of this nature I’ve personally heard so far, in Canada: “Fuck man this customer service job pays me peanuts when I’m busting my ass! I tell ya, it’s those damn Indian immigrants saturating the service industry and driving the wages down!”
Worker saturation does reduce the power of the workers. A small town strike is a huge deal, it can shut the business down with nobody around to easily replace them. As opposed to place they can be easily replaced with low cost workers, the conditions will slowly move towards slavery with every replacement.
Aren’t most of the Indian customer service workers in India though? Nothing to do with immigration
I luckily don’t hear that much. I mostly hear fellow wage slaves making barely enough to slowly die repeat bullshit news headlines like “no one wants to work anymore” all the while working harder and harder for less and less. It’s incredibly depressing.
When I worked at DGX, basically EVERY customer said this in response to seeing me being the only one behind the counter…
No… No, this store just has shit pay, forces EMPLOYEES to pay for parking, and is willing to fire people at the drop of a hat.
Billionaires are a minority… something like 1% of the 1% of people
You’re still overestimating them 200x over. As of 2021, there were about 3300 billionaires worldwide.
That’s 0.00004% of the population, or one for every 2.1 million people.
Wtf I’m a bigot now!
(not disagreeing) And due to capitalism, they and the exploited will always exist, and have the power they have. If the billionaires of today didn’t exist, some other people would be in their place, and nothing would have changed. Capitalism is the root.
No matter wether capitalism or something else. People want power. Thise who have more will do anything to keep it. People fight back. reform Or social collapse. Repeat.
It’s a cycle that will repeat as long as their is something to opress.
Im not saying we should stop fighting. But even if we win it will happen again.
Yeah, the focus needs to be on specific issues where we can take immediate action to improve peoples’ lives. Trying to abstract things out to be about systems and ideologies just promotes complacency and paralysis. Every system can and will be corrupted. We need to identify the specific mechanisms through which that corruption is currently occurring and attack as many of them as we can every time an opportunity to do so presents itself. Wanking about some grand revolution that will solve everything everywhere just promotes inaction since that revolution will never come.
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The struggle’s real.
Because they would have to take their part of the responsibility for allowing it to continue, and that’s hard.
Look out, plebs! Those foreign lads are going to steal your crumbs.
We need more general knowledge.
American conservatives: better defund schools and ban books so people don’t catch on to what’s actually happening. Better if they blame the gay, brown, and poor people, not us in power.
In plain view, too. For shame. I honestly didn’t think I’d see it in my lifetime. I read about it in other places, but the wool was over my eyes.
Unregulated lobbied capitalism. I’m okay with capitalism and competing ideas. What I’m not okay with is some of the late stage problems we’ve encountered as a society. Assuming the US average person lives to be a very low of 50, we are four generations deep. Ive known two generations in my own lineage. That’s not very long.
It’s okay to make better systems. Even for billionaires its okay because a rising tide floats all the boats. This is something that needs to be taught better to the upper class. If these guys had less complaining workers, people willing to contribute more so in their enterprises, workers who are happy to make their products, it would be fine. Putting the squeeze on the little guy does nothing for these dudes besides some tight margins.
Coupled with a very elderly legislative body we are left with senseless greed in both trade and politics. Portions of the population just consume politics like it’s a sitcom. What we’re left with is a system in need of refinement.
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When economic power is functionally political power, and self-perpetuating economic inequality is the default under capitalism, this is inevitable over time.
You can push against it’s nature with that kind of thing, and you might see some temporary improvement, but the baked-in incentive structures will inevitably be followed, and the decline to late stage capitalism and collapse will continue.
If these guys had less complaining workers, people willing to contribute more so in their enterprises, workers who are happy to make their products, it would be fine.
I am not sure that would work. Happy people start to get self-aware and then start to make demands. People who are suffering one way or another are easier to control.
Look for example at how people behave after a war. They work together, build stuff together, do everything to manifest peace. Look at how they behave a few decades later … it has fallen back to in-fighting. Once everything is in order again, people fight among each other. Neighbors fight for shit like wrongly places trees, some build gangs and move around to destroy stuff just for fun, etc.
Humans are shit. We are just not made for being happy.
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That’s probably dementia
I have the perfect plan. We hook all children up to a lifelike VR war simulation shortly after being born. Then when they reach a certain age we pull them out of it so they’ll behave cooperatively.
Well, if we believe the great prophets Wachowski in their prophetic depiction called “The Matrix”: the people in that simulation would just go crazy and die.
I don’t know man I just work here
„1% of people hoarding 99% of wealth in the world, and most of them have the same skin color and religion like me? It has to be the fault of people with a different skin color and/or religion that I’m not getting richer!“
Skin color: capitalism
Religion: money
“Have we considered blaming the people who are reviving old religions for our society’s moral failing instead of acknowledging that the political leaders of my country share my religion
“Maybe one day I’ll join the Multi-Billionaire Club! 🤓”
Simple, under this system the more desperate folks undercut him. They don’t see the rules of the game are what is causing that. They couldn’t imagine a system under other rules, except for Stalinist nightmares. So crushing the people who undermine them is the only option they can imagine (and have been lead to believe by the preachers of hate)
When people have lived their whole lives marinating in anti-communist propaganda, they’re ideologically unable to reach the obvious conclusions and instead have to substitute shit like this or lizard people conspiracy theories.
Easy, they’re brainwashed, exactly as planned. Watch the news lately?
I think prefer my memes to be generally funny, instead of angry and political
