• iByteABit [he/him]@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    10
    ·
    1 year ago

    Rapists should be locked up for life, not 30 years and definitely not 6 months. Given of course that there’s actual concrete evidence for it.

    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Many murderers murder openly and don’t get any jail time at all. Cause they are elected politicians.

      Other than that - the purpose of the penitentiary system is not to punish people, it’s to redeem them. At least in theory. You don’t have any right to punish other people (well, an eye for an eye may do, if there’s no other way, but that’s the worst that’s acceptable), especially with such intentional destruction as a life sentence.

      So your very approach is criminal intent.

      • Netux@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Bad news on your rosy world view, but the real reason for our penitentiary system is to create slave labor.

        • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          There are conversations where the actuality matters, and there are conversations where the criteria matter, and there are also conversations where the dynamic matters. You mixed up this one.

          I mean, everybody talking about someone else’s rosy worldview or otherwise playing a cynic is usually clueless.

    • Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      7 years is a loong time. Where were you 7 years ago? Imagine all the time since then in the same jail cell. Every day, over and over.

      • Merwyn@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Yeah, such a long time that i’m sure the victim has forgotten this trauma after 7 years … /s (obviously)

        • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          You know, one can inflict trauma that won’t be forgotten in 10+ years without any rape. Which wouldn’t be a cause for even a fine, or a day behind bars, or lower social prestige of the person doing it.

          While with rape - I’m all in support of killing attackers in self-defense, it’s justified.

          But if the crime is already done, and if you have them behind bars, and the facts are established, then every hour and every day their personality changes, and becomes further and further from the one that committed that crime.

          And the purpose of the system in theory is not to punish or destroy. It’s to redeem. You are nobody to attempt anything else.

        • Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Excessive jail times might make you feel good, but provides no value to society. Does not reduce crime rates and is expensive.