If so, was it polled somewhere?

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      You act like peace deals are the same thing as calls for peace. They can still have peace deals to appear they want peace when they started the war in the first place back in 2014

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        You act as if a peace deal isn’t literally someone calling for peace.
        Lmao what with the “infiltrators” that cannot be proven? The two oblasts have a large population that is ethnically russian. When a government that had spoken of cleansing russian influence comes into power, it is pretty understandable that that would foment separatism. At best we can prove Russia provided financial aid to separatists, and then later stepped in and negotiate Minsk I and II, which were both broken by Ukraine

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            They at least fought enough for autonomy that Ukraine saw fit to bomb them. Wether they wanted to be Russian is debatable

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              Some Russians who maybe maybe not that lived in the area fought against Ukraine which means they wanted autonomy therefore it’s ok for Russia to annex and invade Ukraine

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                Quick question: did you know about any of this before today? Did you know about the Maidan Coup? Did you know about the nearly 15,000 casualties, including over 3000 civilian casualties, in Luhansk/Donbas between 2014 and 2022? Were you aware of the extensive reporting by western sources on far right elements in Ukraine committing crimes against humanity?

                If any of that was news to you, do you think it’s ever appropriate to pause and reassess your position? Or are you just going to double, triple, and quadruple down on your fairy-tale understanding of the world with smug quips that don’t address anything of substance? smuglord