If he’s our best debate and rhetoric developer then we’re absolutely fucked. We don’t need edgy phobic cunts pretending to give a shit about us, he thinks we’re subhuman and we shouldn’t be supporting him
And no he’s not talking about those groups, he’s talking about queer people in general. Fuck off trying to downplay his hateful shit
No need to play it up, it’s fucking vile and if you don’t see it you should get the fuck out of queer spaces. It would be better if he ever acknowledged his shit takes, but he always doubles down, and then later hopes people just forget or tries to act like he meant something different
It would be better if he ever acknowledged his shit takes
Vaush constantly goes over his shit takes. Literally I’ve watched him break this clip down live on stream more than 5 times. And all of the other clips, too. After explaining what he meant, he often does double down. He aims to become more rhetorically effective, without ever compromising his moral consistency.
No, the source is a fucking livestream. His VODs are on youtube, and you can search like “vaush reviews clip from 2015” “vaush reviews thoughtslime clip” and probably find some of his explanations. But no Im not here to make you a vaush viewer, Im talking in this thread so that vaush’s bullshit doesnt reflect too poorly on his community members that make this instance home.
Yeah I think this probably the best one. He actually recently re-reviewed this segment but I don’t think much was learned from it. Btw, I was there when he said the N word. He used it on a far right stream, and basically they wouldn’t say it, and then admitted to using it at home in private all the time. It made them look like complete pussies in front of their ravenously racist audience. I was in that far right audience, and that was the turning point for me getting off the alt-right pipeline.
At least in the clip, from what I gathered it doesn’t seem like he is talking about queer people in general, but the people who are part of popular online queer discourse. Like he qualifies who he’s talking about in the first opening seconds and it’s not “all queer people in general” and I think it’s uncharitable to make that claim. I also am not going to defend any of the language he uses but that is a separate matter from your second point.
Like idk he’s extremely vitriolic but from what I’ve found it’s always about people with ideas he disagrees with, not over a person’s identity in and of itself. Except bottoms, he really hates bottoms as an ongoing bit that gets really grating at times.
Oh I see, he doesn’t hate queer people just online queer people! That’s just the phobic equivalent of qualifying a sexist statement by saying it’s about white women (speaking of which he’s also wildly sexist)
If he’s our best debate and rhetoric developer then we’re absolutely fucked. We don’t need edgy phobic cunts pretending to give a shit about us, he thinks we’re subhuman and we shouldn’t be supporting him
And no he’s not talking about those groups, he’s talking about queer people in general. Fuck off trying to downplay his hateful shit
… fuck off trying to play up a shitty misunderstood take from last decade.
No need to play it up, it’s fucking vile and if you don’t see it you should get the fuck out of queer spaces. It would be better if he ever acknowledged his shit takes, but he always doubles down, and then later hopes people just forget or tries to act like he meant something different
Vaush constantly goes over his shit takes. Literally I’ve watched him break this clip down live on stream more than 5 times. And all of the other clips, too. After explaining what he meant, he often does double down. He aims to become more rhetorically effective, without ever compromising his moral consistency.
Source?
Ah yes, the moral consistency of saying you support trans rights while calling trans people subhuman
So there is no source then? You just blatantly lied about that?
No, the source is a fucking livestream. His VODs are on youtube, and you can search like “vaush reviews clip from 2015” “vaush reviews thoughtslime clip” and probably find some of his explanations. But no Im not here to make you a vaush viewer, Im talking in this thread so that vaush’s bullshit doesnt reflect too poorly on his community members that make this instance home.
https://youtu.be/8RdQXCxwVLU?si=LMjA4SgOnWZl0KvE
Is this it? I wanna make sure before I waste half an hour listening to him defending saying the n word or some shit
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Yeah I think this probably the best one. He actually recently re-reviewed this segment but I don’t think much was learned from it. Btw, I was there when he said the N word. He used it on a far right stream, and basically they wouldn’t say it, and then admitted to using it at home in private all the time. It made them look like complete pussies in front of their ravenously racist audience. I was in that far right audience, and that was the turning point for me getting off the alt-right pipeline.
At least in the clip, from what I gathered it doesn’t seem like he is talking about queer people in general, but the people who are part of popular online queer discourse. Like he qualifies who he’s talking about in the first opening seconds and it’s not “all queer people in general” and I think it’s uncharitable to make that claim. I also am not going to defend any of the language he uses but that is a separate matter from your second point.
Like idk he’s extremely vitriolic but from what I’ve found it’s always about people with ideas he disagrees with, not over a person’s identity in and of itself. Except bottoms, he really hates bottoms as an ongoing bit that gets really grating at times.
Oh I see, he doesn’t hate queer people just online queer people! That’s just the phobic equivalent of qualifying a sexist statement by saying it’s about white women (speaking of which he’s also wildly sexist)
Fuck him and fuck you for defending him