Can you actually define tenderqueer or is that just some signifier like woke and sjw? These are terms that have very little real meaning and just get thrown around to dismiss people for being loud. Vaush has said many transphobic things over the years and always just doubles down afterwards instead of actually listening to trans people. It would be different if he didn’t have tweets about how his trans friends get too mad over being misgendered over text, but he does. If that’s all that is required for vaush to consider you a tenderqueer, then its a signifier for queer people vaush doesn’t like to dismiss their feelings while claiming to be an ally of trans people. It’s the same type of toxic ranting right wingers do on trans people and SJWs, except they don’t lie about it.
Look, I’ve already been through my debate bro phase, I was even in debate in high school during it. Going into the conversation with the goal to be right isn’t constructive, especially when you don’t have any specific advocacies besides for just your beliefs. Dunks/owns are performative more than anything, they’re a display of superiority over the stupid opponent. It doesn’t advance anybody’s thinking, it is inherently stagnant because both people have advocacies to defend and will not give them up. This works well with strong original thinkers like Zizek and Peterson (don’t like Peterson, not saying his thoughts are any good but he’s definitely a thinker) but a debate is only as valuable as the actual thinkers themselves. Vaush doesn’t really change his worldview unless he’s just reacting to the world around him, he isn’t a right winger, but he is a reactionary. Vaush might shift people a little to the left and that’s kinda cool, but he doesn’t challenge them to actually think about their beliefs. It’s just giving them a more palatable set of paint.
Vaush is not a voice for trans rhetoric. Even if he wasn’t talking about trans people in this clip, calling people subhuman is inherently problematic Dehumanization is the base of bigotry..
It’s so cruel, and I honestly think bashing tenderqueers should be grounds for an instance ban. Being the trans safe space instance and all, I care far more about the tenderqueers than the debate bros who like the memes.
Im only defending vaush because I know one of his communities being in this instance and me joining with the 30 other people there will reflect on me. I dont really care about twitter drama and I will not go and defend any of vaush’s takes. I just wanna let you know, hey, I’m a vaush community member, we’re actually mostly made up of trans people who want to laugh. But way to make it personally about me and advocate for me being banned because I tried to engage with this post.
Oh you didn’t bash tenderqueers. I’m saying that the Keffals “make fake picrews” shit she did should be grounds for bans yk? Tenderqueer is a claimed term, using the term is fine. But we really shouldn’t have a space for the type of shit Keffals was calling for in an instance like this. I’m not going to be positive about trans people being attacked as a demographic on the trans safe space. There’s no room for that trolling here. If you think you’re bashing tenderqueers, maybe you should take a step back and think about why you felt that statement applied to you. I’m not saying I even like the people that claim to be tenderqueer, but the fact is I have no reason to speak or punch down to them.
we really shouldn’t have a space for the type of shit Keffals was calling for in an instance like this.
Oh, no, fully agreed.
There’s no room for that trolling here.
Yeah. We’ve seen enough out of control trolling already (beehaw defederation). The rules on Blahaj Zone are strict and I agree that’s in line with what we need as a community.
using the term is fine.
I thought I was being personally called out for using it, I am so relieved.
Tenderqueer is like this terminally online twitter term. Keffals has some videos going deep into it. They owned the term, by the way. Its not like, a bash against their community afaik. Vaush has agreed with pretty much everything else you said. But no he is amazing at crafting rhetoric to help trans people argue for their rights more effectively.
Can you actually define tenderqueer or is that just some signifier like woke and sjw? These are terms that have very little real meaning and just get thrown around to dismiss people for being loud. Vaush has said many transphobic things over the years and always just doubles down afterwards instead of actually listening to trans people. It would be different if he didn’t have tweets about how his trans friends get too mad over being misgendered over text, but he does. If that’s all that is required for vaush to consider you a tenderqueer, then its a signifier for queer people vaush doesn’t like to dismiss their feelings while claiming to be an ally of trans people. It’s the same type of toxic ranting right wingers do on trans people and SJWs, except they don’t lie about it.
Look, I’ve already been through my debate bro phase, I was even in debate in high school during it. Going into the conversation with the goal to be right isn’t constructive, especially when you don’t have any specific advocacies besides for just your beliefs. Dunks/owns are performative more than anything, they’re a display of superiority over the stupid opponent. It doesn’t advance anybody’s thinking, it is inherently stagnant because both people have advocacies to defend and will not give them up. This works well with strong original thinkers like Zizek and Peterson (don’t like Peterson, not saying his thoughts are any good but he’s definitely a thinker) but a debate is only as valuable as the actual thinkers themselves. Vaush doesn’t really change his worldview unless he’s just reacting to the world around him, he isn’t a right winger, but he is a reactionary. Vaush might shift people a little to the left and that’s kinda cool, but he doesn’t challenge them to actually think about their beliefs. It’s just giving them a more palatable set of paint.
Vaush is not a voice for trans rhetoric. Even if he wasn’t talking about trans people in this clip, calling people subhuman is inherently problematic Dehumanization is the base of bigotry..
Yea tenderqueer isn’t a thing, it’s just a way for reactionary “leftists” to be transphobic towards people who they don’t think are valid
It’s so cruel, and I honestly think bashing tenderqueers should be grounds for an instance ban. Being the trans safe space instance and all, I care far more about the tenderqueers than the debate bros who like the memes.
Im only defending vaush because I know one of his communities being in this instance and me joining with the 30 other people there will reflect on me. I dont really care about twitter drama and I will not go and defend any of vaush’s takes. I just wanna let you know, hey, I’m a vaush community member, we’re actually mostly made up of trans people who want to laugh. But way to make it personally about me and advocate for me being banned because I tried to engage with this post.
Oh you didn’t bash tenderqueers. I’m saying that the Keffals “make fake picrews” shit she did should be grounds for bans yk? Tenderqueer is a claimed term, using the term is fine. But we really shouldn’t have a space for the type of shit Keffals was calling for in an instance like this. I’m not going to be positive about trans people being attacked as a demographic on the trans safe space. There’s no room for that trolling here. If you think you’re bashing tenderqueers, maybe you should take a step back and think about why you felt that statement applied to you. I’m not saying I even like the people that claim to be tenderqueer, but the fact is I have no reason to speak or punch down to them.
Oh, no, fully agreed.
Yeah. We’ve seen enough out of control trolling already (beehaw defederation). The rules on Blahaj Zone are strict and I agree that’s in line with what we need as a community.
I thought I was being personally called out for using it, I am so relieved.
Tenderqueer is like this terminally online twitter term. Keffals has some videos going deep into it. They owned the term, by the way. Its not like, a bash against their community afaik. Vaush has agreed with pretty much everything else you said. But no he is amazing at crafting rhetoric to help trans people argue for their rights more effectively.