The Muslim call to prayer will ring out more freely in New York City under guidelines announced Tuesday by Mayor Eric Adams, which he said should foster a spirit of inclusivity.
Under the new rules, Adams said, mosques will not need a special permit to publicly broadcast the Islamic call to prayer, or adhan, on Fridays and at sundown during the holy month of Ramadan. Friday is the traditional Islamic holy day, and Muslims break their fast at sunset during Ramadan.
The police department’s community affairs bureau will work with mosques to communicate the new guidelines and ensure that devices used to broadcast the adhan are set to appropriate decibel levels, Adams said. Houses of worship can broadcast up to 10 decibels over the ambient sound level, the mayor’s office said.
I find the call to prayer more offensive than inclusive
You will hear it and you will like it.
The German word for actions like that is “Konfrontative Religionsbekundung”. My layman translation would be “confrontational exhibition of religious faith”.
To me it sounds like a particularly angry donkey
Houses of worship can broadcast up to 10 decibels over the ambient sound level
10db may not sound like much but a sound 10db louder sounds twice as loud to the human ear.
That doesn’t put it in perspective at all. Both of those things are very loud. Ambient noise in NYC is kind of medium to low, depending on time of day and exact location. What does 10 dB above the ambient noise at 4:30 AM sound like? The double of breathing is leaves rustling.
The Islamic call to prayer happens before sunrise, just after noon, late afternoon, just after sunset, and night time.
I think you’re going to have a fuck load of complaining when that bad boy goes off at 4:30 am. I used to live in Mosul and you could hear the imams all across the city. It’s like a giant alarm clock.
Well, they managed to put the foot in the door (you’re fucked) just you wait what other special treatments religious folk will require …
We hear church bells all the time, so this seems reasonable.
Both are annoying mind control techniques
Ow the edge
Glad church bells were the top comment… I grew up across the street from a church and I cannot say this loud enough FUCK CHURCH BELLS!! Ban them both, if you need to be called to pray or told what time it is buy a smartphone and set a reminder.
Both should be banned.
See I live in a wee village and despite my non- religiousness, the church bells are absolutely lovely.
I’d like to know if Muslims find the call to prayer a nice sound
I’m under the impression it’s them shouting in a megaphone.
I lived next door to a church for a while, it was a fucking nightmare.
Are they using bells then?
I’d be annoyed if I lived near a Christian church that had a megaphone telling people to come pray, but bells at least seem less intrusive.
We could just make that illegal too instead.
That’s the argument that all the “Muslims shouldn’t have extra privileges” miss.
No one should have extra privileges, but we can’t take away church bells because of all the Christians would cry foul, so we’re stuck giving more religions the right to make excess noise everytime they ask because otherwise it’s discrimination.
Caterwauling over a loudspeaker is much more disruptive and annoying than a bell and I don’t care who is caterwauling or ringing the bell
But honestly, yeah, apply all noise limits to everyone in the same way. If a bell is being rung during quiet hours and it’s too loud, then hit the church with a violation.
Look, you let one group be loud, you let all similar groups be loud. You don’t get to choose based on who you like or who makes a sound you like. Fair is fair.
I’d rather peace and quiet thank you very much, if I can’t have that, I’d rather fair rules over arbitrary ones.
It’s all relative noise levels and how reasonable a noise is. Tbh I’ve never lived somewhere with church bells that make loud noises during night hours like the Muslims do with their call to prayer, but I guess if a church was doing that, I’d support restricting them, too.
Fuck both.
My GF lives by a mosque where they blast their off-tone, lazy chants at full blast. Its awful. Its so loud it rattles her windows. Apparently its to evangelize, but I can’t imagine anyone getting swayed when their ear drums burst from poorly toned chants.
what if you live next door? Kinda like your neighbor’s dog barking or mowing grass if you work nights
I lived about 3 miles from a church in a mid-sized town in the midwest. On Sundays they’d play music on some gigantic jangly bell thing I could hear loudly at my house… again, 3 miles away. I can’t imagine the noise complaints a regular person would get for playing something that loud, but they’re a church so apparently it’s fine.
On the one hand, I would be annoyed by more loud noise. On the other hand, it would show the other churches how obnoxious their 5 to 10 minute bell jingles are (hopefully).
This happens surprisingly often. There is a church on my block that I can’t hear unless I go right up to the building on Sundays and I know that they do get into because during Covid they moved outside with the singing.
Used to go to school near a mosque.
Their broadcasts are actually some really nice kind of singing, which is a lot less intrusive than the church bells I get across the village at 6 in the morning.
Wait until some dude with shitty voice does that…
It’s loud and high-pitched and unasked for anyway.
I’m not part of the religion, but I used to use the call to prayer to wake up during finals week during university. It was different than my other alarms, so my body had a 0% chance of sleeping through it.
Worked astounding well.
I still think this issue can be solved with an app. In fact I am willing to help work on it as long as they promise to put it to bed.
You get a little cry to prayer on your personal device based on your location.
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There’s hundreds of apps that already do this, I have two of them on my phone. There’s more to it than just the sound
So see if the city has like a max db for speakers, get a device to measure the decibels and complain on that front. Let them know you are not arguing about the prayer ( sucks but I think that battle is lost for now) but the noise level is disruptive
And then Americans call Europe a New Mogadishu, lol.
Conservatives gonna love this
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Someone should teach these regressive fundies about the existence of earbuds.
Good. Muslims deserve it.
Why?
This is not an attack on Islam.
Why does one group have the right to blast (a sound 10db louder sounds twice as loud to the human ear.) the neighbourhood with noise?
How does their right to broadcast trump the right of others to have some peace and quiet?
