Utah’s safety net for the poor is so intertwined with the LDS Church that individual bishops often decide who receives assistance. Some deny help unless a person goes to services or gets baptized.
  • Clent@lemmy.world
    1032·
    1 year ago

    Literally the point.

    This is how Mormons operate. There is no give without at least guilt. They record tithings. They will use this against you. They think this is acceptable.

  • ivanafterall@kbin.social
    36·
    1 year ago

    The first option when you call Utah’s unemployment hotline is, “Press 1 to Report Fraud.” And I literally had Department of Workforce staff recommend Mormon-only resources, such as “The Bishop’s Pantry” where they have the “good milk/bread, etc…”

    • meyotch@slrpnk.net
      27·
      1 year ago

      Doubt those numbers with all your might mind and strength. That is a PR spin from the church. Their census cannot be trusted or independently verified. They are losing the younger generation big time.

      • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
        18·
        1 year ago

        Thanks for reminding me I still need to make them take my name off the records. Haven’t set foot in one of their buildings in 15 years and there’s probably a lot of younger folks like me

        • hash@lemmy.world
          17·
          1 year ago

          Their grip of control extends far further than it seems. I need to be taken off the records as well but know it will trigger some sort of notification mechanism and create drama with family. Even when I feel like I’m out from under their thumb there’s emotional blackmail that members are willing to smile and shrug off.

          • meyotch@slrpnk.netEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            That is my own exact reason for remaining on the roster. I am multi-generational Mormon and the whisper network still operates very well. Thankfully I do not live behind the Zion Curtain anymore.

      • Uranium3006@kbin.social
        13·
        1 year ago

        Indeed they have a membership retention crisis especially among young men. They’ve had to merge congregations together and are definitely lying. In order to get yourself off the membership roles and stop getting hounded by the Mormon Church’s IRS you literally have to get a lawyer to file paperwork on your behalf. Yes it’s really that bad the website is called to quitmormon.com I believe

      • Nkiru Anaya@lemm.ee
        1·
        1 year ago

        That probably isn’t true where I live (not in Utah). Here, there is an LDS church seemingly on every street corner. It’s crazy. See a church, go 1 mile south and see another, go 1 mile east, see another, etc. It’s really spooky because more often than not, an LDS church is right next to a very wealthy neighborhood.

        How can they afford so many buildings and property? Is it a front for money laundering or something?