• SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de
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      1 year ago

      Came here to make this (half)joke.

      Sadly, it’s not just a joke, it’s also the only way to actually do this.

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        It’s not such a joke for about 70 percent of the people who use a computer. All most people do is use the internet, write a document or two and check their email (most of the time using a web based service).

        All of which can be done by any OS.

        The only reason anyone would want Microsoft is if they specifically ran a program that required Windows … most will say that MS Word runs better on Windows which is true but most people I know write or view the most basic documents that any word processing software is more than adequate.

        And even if MS word is required by your school or work … get them to pay for the OS and the word processing software.

        Otherwise, the majority of the people I know with a computer only use it as a glorified tablet to access the internet and browse social media … all of which can be done with the most basic Linux distro that won’t hassle you with annoying popups asking you to do things you shouldn’t even be thinking about.

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          There is virtually no difference between running Word 2007 on modern Windows or under Wine, and I don’t need to use 365 (which is pushy about features in the Home tab and had a terrible redesign). I might pirate Office 2013 at some point if its compatibility rating increases. Still, I prefer LibreOffice unless I need to share the document.

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      I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

      Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

      There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

      But seriously: another comment here points out some tool

    • lando55@lemmy.world
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      Last distro I installed for personal use was Ubuntu and it was lousy with these types of popups (note: this was about 10 years ago)

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      Mobile stole so many users from MS In the last 10 years that there is nothing the government could do about this.

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    Got this via Mastodon which will not let me search for the source.

    If you’re in the US, when you set up Windows for the first time, select English (Europe) or English (World), not English (US). That will stop it installing all the bloatware that US citizens are not protected from but everyone else is.

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      It’s definitely a US thing, I’m on English (Singapore) and have not seen an ad, ever. I was perplexed by all the complaints of ads in the start menu and wherever, until someone pointed to me that it was a US thing.

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      You must switch back to English (US) after installation if you want access to Microsoft Store (and even if you don’t, you probably should because most apps are now there).

      I’ve seen a few tools to suppress most telemetry such as ChrisTitusTech’s winutil or O&O ShutUp, maybe you could give that a try. Microsoft is really pushing hard Bing & Edge…

      Also, as a Linux user, I must obliged to the rules and say there’s alternatives out there if you want to try something new. :-) !linux@lemmy.ml

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        What exactly are you getting from the Microsoft app store out of curiosity?

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          Windows Terminal + WSL, everything related to Xbox if you’re using Gamepass or “Play anywhere” titles (Xbox/PC cross-buy).

          Most basics apps are from the Microsoft app store too; calculator, calendar, paint, etc.

          It’s been a hot minute since I’ve used Windows, but you’d be surprise how much apps are now updated through that app store.

          If your device use Windows in S mode, all your apps must come from the store & you must use Edge.

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      We leave in Japan, and my wife had that popup once already (using Brave on Win10 - surface laptop)

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        From what I’ve seen online, it must be done during installation. So short answer, no.

        As others have said, you could also backup your data and do a fresh installation (from a boot media, not from Windows itself just to be extra safe).

        ThioJoe also has a video talking about this English (Europe/World) thing and also provide a Powershell script to delete Windows bloatware. This option could be interesting if you don’t want to reset your whole installation.

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    Edge/Windows is literally the technological equivalent of an obsessive ex-girlfriend.

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      I only opened this thread to see if the first comment was by a Linux neckbeard

      Lol

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        I like how anyone who mentions Linux is now a neckbeard. If you even dare to complain about how shit MS has become (they’ve always been shit, but it’s more obvious now) then you’re somehow a neckbeard. You didn’t say the solution wasn’t valid, just attacked them because there isn’t another solution. Put up with MS’s shut, Apple’s shit, or find a Linux distro that suits you. Your choice.

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            You can do all that with Linux and there are plenty of distros where you minimally need to use the terminal or don’t at all. Linux has distros for people who want windows without Microsoft. You only need the terminal if you’re a power user.(Android is Linux, but you never hear anyone complain about having to use the terminal or anything. Linux is the most used OS in the world, you just don’t realize it because it can be anything.)

            It’s funny that people can have opinions without any actual knowledge. It’s a weird thing. How does that even happen? We can feel very strongly about things, and often so strongly that we ignore all countering information just so we can maintain our beliefs, as if it’ll hurt us to change them. Humans are weird.

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            You can choose whatever you want for whatever reason you want, but don’t spread misconceptions on the internet. With Proton, if you install a newb distro there is literally no reason to touch the commandline at all for what you want to do.

            • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml
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              The fuck is a distro? Linux bros can’t say a single sentence about how “easy” Linux is without using some terminology that proves it would actually take quite a bit of research for someone unfamiliar to make the switch. People don’t want to do that. They want an OS that works without having to take a mini CS course.

              You really don’t seem to understand how big the gap is. The things you think are easy or intuitive are far from it. Most people can’t even figure out how to download something from GitHub, and you think Linux is right for them?

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                People don’t want windows either, they just use it because it came preinstalled.

                Yes there are people who will never install any alternative OS for themselves but there are plenty of people who would if they knew about other viable options.

                I’m willing to bet most Linux users used to be windows users at some point. So its not futile to evangelise.

                Also pick a noob distribution/flavour such as pop_os and the installation is no different than installing windows. Download your browser, steam and office tools and just use it.

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    Use software like shutupwin10 or various other open source debloat scripts to remove a shit-ton of annoying features in windows. Or, as lemmy galaxy-brains would have it, JuSt uSe LiNuX

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    I’d like to mention Windows 10 LTSC here. It’s an official Windows 10 Edition from Microsoft, designed for enterprise and embedded usage. Therefore it has no bloatware, no annoying feature updates, no ads and only the absolute minimum of telemetry. It just works.

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      Out of curiosity, except obviously people who don’t use Windows, who would it be the wrong choice for?

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        If you use modern hardware it doesn’t behave quite well and gets worse battery life. If you use any tools from Microsoft (WSL, Office, Windows Terminal, etc) most of those are incompatible or a pain to install. If you use anything from the Microsoft Store, including Game Pass, since it just doesn’t include the Microsoft Store.

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      You “earn” points by searching and doing daily stuff which you can redeem for gift cards/rewards.

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      Are you actually bots? I can’t believe you would suggest either chrome or bing if privacy is a concern to you. It’s firefox and duckduckgo all day, every day…