Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.
There is so much wrong with just the title of this article:
- What marketplace? CivitAI is free. Unstable Diffusion Discord is free. Stable Diffusion is free. All of the models and LoRAs are free to download. The only cost is a video card (even a basic one) and some time to figure this shit out.
- “Everyone is for sale”. No, that’s current fucking situation, where human trafficking runs rampant throughout the sex and porn industry. AI porn is conflict-free. You don’t need to force an underaged, kidnapped teenager to perform a sex act in front of a camera to create AI porn.
- “For Sale”. Again, where’s the sale? This shit is free.
A 404 Media investigation shows that recent developments
Get the fuck outta here! This two bit blog want to call itself “a 404 Media investigation”? Maybe don’t tackle subjects you have no knowledge or expertise in.
The Product
Repeat: FOR FREE! No product!
In one user’s feed, I saw eight images of the cartoon character from the children’s’ show Ben 10, Gwen Tennyson, in a revealing maid’s uniform. Then, nine images of her making the “ahegao” face in front of an erect penis. Then more than a dozen images of her in bed, in pajamas, with very large breasts. Earlier the same day, that user generated dozens of innocuous images of various female celebrities in the style of red carpet or fashion magazine photos. Scrolling down further, I can see the user fixate on specific celebrities and fictional characters, Disney princesses, anime characters, and actresses, each rotated through a series of images posing them in lingerie, schoolgirl uniforms, and hardcore pornography.
Have you seen Danbooru? Or F95 Zone? This shit is out there, everywhere. Rule 34 has existed for decades. So has the literal site called “Rule 34”. You remember that whole Tifa porn video that showed up in an Italian court room? Somebody had to animate that. 3D porn artists takes its donations from Patreon. Are you going to go after Patreon, too?
These dumbasses are describing things like they’ve been living in a rock for the past 25 years, watching cable TV with no Internet access, just NOW discovered AI porn as their first vice, and decided to write an article about it to get rid of the undeserved guilt of what they found.
What a shitty, pathetic attempt at creating some sort of moral panic.
The danbooru aspect of the “AI” moral panic is what annoys me.
So many of my friends - many of whom are amateur artists - hate computer generated images because the copyright of the artists were violated, and they weren’t even asked. And I agree that does kinda suck - but - how did that happen?
Danbooru.
The art had already been “stolen” and was available online for free. Where was their morality then? For the last decade or whatever that danbooru has been up? Danbooru is who violated the copyright, not stable diffusion or whatever.
At least computer generated imagery is different, like, the stuff it was trained on was exactly their art, while this stuff, while might look like theirs, is unique. (And often with a unique number of fingers.)
And, if “copyright” is their real concern, them surely they understand that copyright only protects against someone making a profit of their work, right? Surely they’ll have looked into it and they already know that “art” made by models that used copyrighted content for training are provided from being copyrighted themselves, right? And that you can only buy/sell content made from models that are in the copyright clear, surely they know all this?
No, of course not. They don’t give a shit about copyright, they just got the ickies from new tech.
no one is moral panicking over ai. people just want control over their creation, whether it’s profit sharing or not being used to train models.
you really can’t see how an imageboard has completely different considerations over image generating models?
or that people are going after ai because there is only like a couple of models that everyone uses vs uncountable image hosts?
both danbooru and stable diffusion could violate copyright, not one or the other.
why would someone want training models to ingest their creation just to spit out free forgeries that they cannot claim the copyright to?
no one is moral panicking over ai.
This is one of the most inaccurate statements I’ve seen in 2023.
Everybody is morally panicking over AI.
stable diffusion could violate copyright, not one or the other.
Or they don’t, because Stable Diffusion is a 4GB file of weights and numbers that have little to do with the content it was trained on. And, you can’t copyright a style.
you really can’t see how an imageboard has completely different considerations over image generating models?
Of course I see the difference - direct, outright theft and direct profiting from the theft is much worse then using content that’s been stolen to train computer image generation software.
If your complaint is about the copyright infringement, then danbooru should be the target of your complaint - but no one seems to care about that. Why don’t people care about that?
If the concern is that this software makes it easier to commit crimes, sure, I guess? But, again, danbooru. And like every other site on the internet.
The concern, it seems to me, is with person A being an artist, person B makes art and tries to pass it off as an original work by person A. And that’s valid - but I still don’t feel like it’s worse than actually just taking the artwork and calling it “content” and using it to generate as revenue.
The main problem i have with this criticism is that (imo) there are much more important issues at stake with midjourney or whatever - and this (alleged) concern (alleged because it only seems to go skin-deep) prevents people from caring about the real issues.
Many many many jobs now, when a person leaves, they’re replaced with 2 part time people. This benefits profits and hurts everyone else.
The issue with computer generated images is that, when a movie studio needs a sci fi background, it used to require an artist; now, it just requires midjourney - and you can hire the artist for 4 hours (instead of 4 days) to touch it up, fix the fingers, etc - which not only takes less time, but also less talent, which increases the labor supply, which pushes wages down.
This technology has the potential to take the career of being an artist and turns out into a low-wage, part time thing that you can’t live off of. This has happened in so many parts of our economy and it’s really bad, and we need to protect artists from that fate.
So no, I really can’t muster up giving a shit about whether someone on pixiv copies your art and makes 3$ a month from a patreon. The entire field of visual arts is under threat of complete annihilation from greedy capitalists. They’re the villains here, not some neckbeard’s patreon.
I’m guessing that the “marketplace” and “sale” refers to sites like “Mage Space” which charge money per image generated or offer subscriptions. The article mentions that the model trainers also received a percentage of earnings off of the paid renderings using their models.
Obviously you could run these models on your own, but my guess is that the crux of the article is about monetizing the work, rather than just training your own models and sharing the checkpoints.
The article is somewhat interesting as it covers the topic from an outsider’s perspective more geared towards how monetization infests open sharing, but yeah the headline is kinda clickbait.
“Mage Space” which charge money per image generated
Well, instead of bitching about the AI porn aspect, perhaps they should spend more time talking about how much of a scam it is to charge for AI-generated images.
Compute costs money, it’s more ethical to charge your users than it is to throw shady ads at them which link to malware.
Also buying and eventually replacing expensive hardware. Running AI at scale requires hundreds of thousands of dollars of GPUs.
I took their comment to mean running the generation locally is almost free.
Sure, if you have hardware and/or time to generate it client side. I’m just saying that if you run a web service and decide to charge for it, that’s better than most of the alternative monetization strategies.
I get no malware or shady ads when I generate AI images with Stable Diffusion. I don’t know what kind of sites or tools you’re using where you’re getting shady ads, but you’re getting ripped off.
Just because something is free it does not mean that there is no marketplace or product. Sozial Media is generally free, but I would still call Facebook, Tiktok or Instagram a product.
Nowadays a lot of industries start out completely free, but move into paid subscription models later.
Okay. There is still no product involved with AI porn.
People buy and sell paintings despite the fact that you could also make paintings pretty easily. You’re paying for the time they spent creating it and the expertise it required. Just because some people scan and upload their paintings for free, doesn’t mean that all paintings are not products. I don’t see why the same couldn’t be true for AI porn.
You pay in giving up your free time which they sell. Technically we’re just working for free and the product is our attention
Well, fuck, I better log off of Lemmy because it costs me too much damn money.
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I just wanted to say I love your comment. Your totally correct and I enjoyed the passion in your words. That’s how we got to deal with shit article more often. Thx
Repeat: FOR FREE! No product!
If it’s free, chances are you’re the product. I assume that there is a market for user-generated “prompts” somewhere.
No, that’s not how open-source or open-source philosophies work. They share their work because they were able to download other people’s work, and sometimes people improve upon their own work.
These aren’t corporations. You don’t need to immediately jump to capitalistic conclusions. Just jump on Unstable Diffusion Discord or CivitAI yourself. It’s all free.
Maybe there’s commissions for specific people/poses, cause I certainly couldn’t keep a hard on long enough to generate a spakin worth image
These aren’t corporations.
I know, I know: “but the website is free” (for now). However, Civit AI, Inc. is not a loose community. There must be something that pays their bills. I wonder what it is.
I feel like you’re implying people should look into things before making accusations. Like, find out if what they’re saying is true before they say it. And that’s why no one asked you to the prom.
They’re probably losing money now and just trying to build a user base as a first-mover. They accept donations and subscriptions with fairly minor benefits, but I imagine hosting and serving sizable AI models is not cheap.
They’ll probably have to transition to paid access at some point, but I don’t see it as particularly unethical as they have bills to pay and do attempt to moderate content on the site.
I tend to agree generating adult content of real people is unethical, but probably less so than how a lot of real porn is made. I don’t think there should be open avenues for sharing that kind of stuff online, and their rules should be better enforced.
I tend to agree generating adult content of real people is unethical, but probably less so than how a lot of real porn is made.
Well, even if that were the case, the “real porn” is still required to train the model in the first place.
So, it’s unethical shit on top of what you think was even more unethical.
Sure, and “impossible” meat wouldn’t have existed if people weren’t already eating actual meat. But it’s a better alternative. Porn is not going anywhere. If generative AI means less real people get exploited that’s a win in my book.
There’s a market for commission artists doing this for money since the dawn of art
Honestly, if the combination of AI porn + good AR + haptic fleshlights gets us to a point where horny single men with limited real-world romantic prospects can have fulfilling sex lives without having to bug any actual living women to attain them, I think the world will be a better place.
Yeah, but with the caveat that this will only make the world a better place if society chose to implicitly allow this, and actively chose not to disparage, mock, and exclude those people who want to go this path. Which, based on everything we’ve ever seen about society, is not going to happen.
True, but people already do 80% of that - I don’t think the stigma attached to “AI-generated porn that talks to you and responds to your requests” is likely to be meaningfully greater than the stigma attached to regular porn, or to an OnlyFans where you’re doing the same thing with an actual woman but clamoring for her attention with a bunch of other guys.
Yea… yea but that’s not what you said. You implicitly said “strapped to AI powered AR with a fleshlight” or some nonsense like that. And then when called out about how that would not work societally - you then default to “there’s no stigma with regular porn”.
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People already do watch AR porn. People already do use interactive fleshlights. People already do talk to and make requests of performers on OnlyFans and lots of other places. None of these things seem to come with much more stigma than regular porn; I don’t think the use of AI changes that.
Y’all probably would love this utopia. Socially inept legions of men ostracized from society jacking off in their mothers basement with AR / AI till the end of time.
Question is why? And why when this article is talking about James Dean?
Who are you that are so fast du judge people you barely know? I have a good job, functioning social life and am generally considered a pleasent person to spend time with. Yet i choose to not date. The reasons are quite complex and none of anyones business. Why and how does watching AI porn make me a socially inept person jacking it in some basement? Maybe it is time to get off your high horse and use reason in your arguments instead of emotions and sterotypes.
Your a fucking idiot. I’m on your side. I was responding to a comment saying that that’s a good thing. Perhaps it is for you and that’s fine, jack off in your mother’s basement then for all I give a shit.
Normalizing this behavior is not healthy for anyone but I also don’t believe in ostracizing it.
Called out about what? What gotcha did you find?
Uh, based on the realistic fuck robots that are hitting the market I don’t think you have to worry about society telling you that you can’t have VR sex with a giant hentai squid with massive tits. Just maybe don’t do it in your parents living room this time.
See? This is what I mean.
I don’t follow at all. When you do sexual activities in a public area you are making other people part of the act, without their consent. Do what you want with consenting people.
If you don’t want people to kink shame don’t expose them to your kink. I am not knocking on doors telling people what they should or should not do, I am asking not to be part of their activities. The vast majority of people have my attitude towards this.
We’re talking about AI porn in this thread. I’m not sure why you’re going off on a rant about exhibitionism, or why you’re doing it here in a reply to my comment.
Your comment was in reply to a comment talking about sex robots. Your comment was calling that comment out for being discriminatory against people who use sex robots openly. It was all very easy to follow as an observer. Conversations wander sometimes.
I mean it’s just common sense not to do these things in your mother’s living room my guy.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
I mean… its not like masturbation isnt already mocked and shamed already around the world, its not like thats ever stoped the more perverted ones that have weird kinks. And even if theres legislations against it (which there hasnt been any serious one afak since the middle ages) the wankers are always gonna win, probably because they have more stamina.
Edit: now im not saying they should be legislated, imho the government has no bussines on ones sex life as long as all parts involved are concenting adults or being solo, just that they always have and probably will be shamed, why? I dont know, but probably religion has something to do there. I wont judge anybody though.
I’m not sure “pervert” is the best word to describe someone who masturbates.
True, but my scope was more focused to someone thats gonna treat themselves to a vr suported oppaibot2100, with many features including blah blah blah. You get the drill, the opaibot is getting a diferent drill in another way though.
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I said around the world. First world countries thend to be more outgoing with sex discucion (not necesarilly thr same as education) than other countries that in the most part, or at least on the rulling classes, thend to be more traditional. Althought about the whole gen z and gen x thing, this is the first time i heard of that, could you elaborate on that m8?
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Gen Z seem to be scarily sex-negative again, see all their complaints about sex scenes in films as an example.
I don’t keep up on zoomerisms, is this really a thing? I thought zoomers were basically the OnlyFans generation.
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Tedx speaker and OnlyFans model Zahira Kelly-Cabrera offered her take on this
This entire sentence is it’s own reflective meme.
Yeah sure Gen Z is all sex-negatice when they grow up and all they ever hear (from teachers, moral authorities etc…) is how egoistic they are for desiring sex. What child in a sane mind is willing to effort so much energy just to overcome the needless and worthless obstacle that is general morality to have sex with someone?
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Because what the world needs now is for even more disengaged, disinterested, and misanthropic portion of the population.
Why learn to fuck people when you can just buy The Wanker 9000™?
Better wait for the 9001, you don’t want to be a first adopter on this sort of thing.
Instructions unclear, dick stuck in toaster.
Send help.
“We’re sorry to announce a product recall due to a low to moderate chance of your device performing an unexpected castration.”
Just flip the switch
Meh. If someone wants to opt out they pretty much are going to do it. Besides would you rather deal with them? Imagine if everyone you were around didn’t have a means to entertain themselves at all times. They would be engaged, they would create drama, they would tell other people what they thought of them.
Sometimes in industrial equipment we put in random alarms to be triggered so the people who are supposed to stand there have to do something vs wandering around causing trouble. Especially in union plants.
Well, to rule out the “misanthropic” part one doesn’t really need to have a fulfilling sex life, just meet a few people (suppose, women) who’d make them like humanity again.
About disengaged and disinterested - it’s more about engagement and interest being hard.
These men used to gather on the streets and start breaking shit and kicking grannies back in the day to express their frustration. Them withdrawing to their moms basements smoking weed and jerking off to porn might not be ideal but perhaps not the worst thing either. That’s why we don’t see a significant uptick in crime despite the ever increasing amount of such men.
Yeah let’s just give young men sex robots and make them even more detached from community and relationships
I do kind of wonder what the end-game is in terms of fertility rates in society if we can manufacture ever-more-perfect simulations of sex.
The Amish might still be around, but…
The psychological ramifications of that are immense. It would destroy people. It would be no different than any other drug.
I for one welcome our new sexbot overlords.
I don’t see how. It is just porn but more specific. You could get the same results before this but with a tiny bit more work. It should have as much impact on humanity as did on-demand streaming did. On the individual level this could maybe put an end to all the not-so-ethically produced porn.
lemmy coomers will never concede this obvious point
I’d argue but I’m too busy cooming
lmao that is not fulfilling
Ahhh, you watched the Red Dwarf episode “Better than Life”
The human reproductive rate will plummet once we can have VR with sensory input.
Future Sex is a great anthology series about it.
I’m cool with this, we need a lot fewer humans anyway and particularly so in countries rich enough for people to be able to afford VR sex rigs.
Impacting the plebeian workforce in a way that’s felt even harder than today’s inability to afford kids? Yeah, this is gonna be mocked and regulated out of existence for sure.
It’ll look like moral reasoning, but the fewer workers exist, the more bargaining power all of them have against the rich. See the scarcity of laborers during the black plague triggering the end of feudalism.
Yes, and also: The labour market is a market, meaning if there is fewer workers available, then “prices” (payment) go up.
it isn’t the first world we have to worry about.
Lemmy is actually more of a hellsacape than Reddit
“People in rich, heavily resource-consuming countries should have fewer babies” is a hellscape take now? Have you read literally any news article this summer?
I had semi-high hopes, but yea, this place is atrocious
More for us then boys
That’s science fiction.
Except instead they will treat ai girls as filthy as they want and then expect all women to act like that. Then not understand why they don’t… yeah pretty sure that’s what’s going to happen.
Just like video games taught me to shoot everything
No it’s much more like the way porn already messes up a lot of men’s perception of women and sex
As disney and romantic movies did with womens idea of relationships
How does AI impact this anymore than real girls? If anything it could cut down on sex trafficking.
Without question. The ability to have sex with something isn’t going to prevent them from being socially dysfunctional and would, if anything, make it noticeably worse. You’re getting off, but you still have issues talking to the other sex. They’re just easier to avoid addressing now and your dolls don’t demand basic respect.
I don’t think I’d come out too much against it, personally. People got biological imperatives, I’m not gonna protest against dildos. But the financial and mental health crises both remain and can’t be circumvented like that.
You’re getting off, but you still have issues talking to the other sex.
You just described Japan
Why would being sexually fulfilled make men more shitty to women? Perhaps aloof, but that is different from hateful.
Because they will get frustrated when they realize real women are not exactly like their perfect, idealized AI counterparts, that they have their own individual personalities, and are not beholden to their men like an AI girlfriend would.
You got downvoted but this is exactly how porn affects many men already
“Real” women are already and have been rocking instagram filters or photoshop for a while now. Deception isn’t limited to AI. Should breast implants be banned too?
“sexually fulfilled”!
what do you think sexuality is?
This is a strange question. What do you think sexuality is? And what about your definition precludes fulfillment from an AI partner?
ejaculation is not “sexual fulfillment”!
I’d push back on that and say that’s fear mongering. The scenario you’re describing MAY occur IF “they” don’t witness social interactions with IRL girls at all, and that includes video/virtual meetups, video recordings of IRL girls interacting etc.
“They” would have to have never seen a female person in any media other than their AI sexbots, which I find incredibly unlikely that this could become the norm.
Yeah, it’s a great idea, if these people don’t, like, interact with the world writ large
The complete opposite is true. That would be a death of dispar filled distopia. Do we not have enough virgins jacking to internet porn all day with crippling depression.
People need relationships not better internet porn
Oh ok, let me just put this genie back in the bottle then…/s
Would men or the 70s traded in their lives for sexbots I wonder
You would have been into eugenics in the 1930s
I’m unconvinced by this attempt to create a moral panic. IMO nothing here is shocking or offensive once I remember that people could already use their imaginations to picture celebrities naked!
it’s not like celeb porn fakes are anything new, anyway.
The main issue of this would be public defamation, i.e. wrongfully portraying someone as porn actor which might destroy their career. You cant really do that with written or drawn fiction.
But for that the pictures would have to be photorealistic, which is not the case just yet. But the tech is going to improve plus the generated images could be further manipulated (i.e. add blur/noise to the image to make it look like a bad phone picture).
Once the ability to make photo-realistic images like that becomes commonplace, those images won’t be evidence of anything anymore. Now I can tell you a story about how I had sex with a celebrity, and you won’t believe me because you know I easily could have made it all up. In the future I will be able to show you a 100% realistic video of me having sex with a celebrity, and you won’t believe me because you’ll know that I easily could have made it all up.
The obvious thing is that at some point any camera worth it’s salt will have a nice embedded key that it signs it’s output traceable to a vendor’s CA at the least. No signature, the image would be considered fake.
Yeah, I think that there may be something like that – the ability to prove things with a camera is useful – but it’s gonna be more-complicated than just that. It’s consumer hardware. If you just do that, someone is gonna figure out how to extract the keys on at least one model and then you can forge authenticated images with it.
As a programmer, I gotta say, that’s probably not technically feasible in a sensible way.
Every camera has got to have an embedded key, and if any one of them leaks, the system becomes worthless.
No, that would actually be feasible with enough effort.
The real question is what do you do if someone takes a screenshot of that image? Since the picture must be in a format that can be shown, nothing is stopping people from writing software that just strips the authentication from the camera file.
Edit: misread the problem. You need to get a private key to make forgeries and be able to say “no look, this was taken with a camera”. Stripping the signature from photographs is the opposite of what we want here.
It will kill celebrity rather than be a constant issue about stealing images.
Good. Fame is overrated, anyway. Let’s praise the era where no one person is completely dominating the cultural zeitgeist, and people are talking about their own indie discoveries they found, that algorithms and bots recommended them.
Shit, Spotify’s discovery systems are so good that we’re almost there with the music industry.
I kind of get what you’re saying, but it’s also definitely not the same as imagination. It’s vivid, almost real, shareable, and permanent. Imagine if someone generated an AI image of you doing something you consider embarrassing or compromising and sent it to your coworkers or family.
That said, I don’t think there’s much to be done about it. This isn’t containable.
To be fair, if compared to imagining something, sharing something like that with one’s family would be similar to spreading rumors verbally, leading to others imagining the same thing. Which while certainly something that happens, is also behavior we already recognize as extremely rude, sometimes illegally so
The difference is that the images AIs spit out are, well, real. Imagining someone naked doesn’t produce a potentially very convincing actual image that can be shared.
I do think that AI can’t really be effectively regulated (my fucking laptop can run Stable Diffusion), but that doesn’t mean that there’s no need for a debate.
already use their imaginations to picture celebrities naked.
Speak for yourself. Some of us can’t do that.
So there’s a porn segment I’ve completely overlooked? Unbelievable.
This AI thing may catch on
There are different communities already, just search for /c/aigen
There’s plenty of threads on /b/ with them.
This is not a troll: zoom in on the feet of the yellow dress image. It’s hilariously bad.
Oh no, the realism, it’s just too much! 🤡
Wait, why did you zoom in on the feet?
Obligatory “Boulderchuck is a Nazi”
Obligatory “Pebbleyeet is a Nazi”
How many names has stonetoss gone by at this point like what the hell
Fuck pebblethrow
I’m an elbow man, myself.
Pffft-- Imagine not being an armpits man!
You need to check yourself into some fucking rehab or something you filthy degenerate
About these rehabs, would the staff at them happen to have short sleeve shirts that showcase their elbows?
For a couple of years after Google Autocomplete rolled out it suggested adding “feet” to the end of any search I’d make on a famous woman’s name. I honestly didn’t get it at first. I’d never searched for feet in any context, so it wasn’t a personalized thing. I chalked it up either to other women wanting to see a pair of shoes she’d worn or to some weird Autocomplete bug. I’m not prudish, but the idea that so many people were into feet that they perved Google never crossed my mind.
Maybe Google uses geographic location as an input, and it was just some other correlating factor, like people in your area, rather than a global trend.
Thank you. I think it’s really weird. nothing wrong with it but it makes me uncomfortable.
Because the hands were reasonably normal. AI always fucks up one or the other.
Sorry, she appears to have only three fingers and the index is kinda shaped like a thumb?
don’t kinkshame me!
I didn’t even realize her feet were in the image
Asking the real question.
She has the correct amount of toes. Whats the problem?
I mean technically there are 10 but there’s 6 on 1 foot and 4 on the other.
WOW, try to have some realistic standards buddy.
And her right foot is on her left leg and her left foot is on her right leg
Let’s not get pedantic here.
Podriatric*
podantic?
This is why we needed to keep pead and ped. Two different PIE roots we decided to merge in American English.
technically we’re getting pedfootic
What’s wrong with having six toes on one foot, four toes on the other foot and your feet on backwards?
You missed the heel she has on the top of the four-toed one, around where her ankle meets. Foot’s reversible.
Hot.
You underestimate the future growth for amputee fetishes.
Click on comments hoping to find conversations on the ethics of AI porn. Instead find a 20+ comment chain scrutinizing the details of the feet and other features on the thumbnail.
Lemmy becoming Reddit went faster than I had thought.
People are people. Changing infrastructure isn’t going to make it different, only the ability to perhaps filter it better.
Indeed, there is surely no demand for unrealistic porn.
Her left hand is looking kind of messed up also. Only 3 fingers… or maybe more than 3 fingers but only 3 knuckles.
Knees are also too sharp.
Oh yeah. At least they got the total amount of toes correct.
I did try out one of those image generators. Wanted a picture of two girls making out in the bathroom. The index finger of one girl was grown together with the collarbone of the other one.
So I checked and nobody has put AI porn of me up for sale, yet. What the fuck, guys? Am I not desirable enough for you!?
I’m working on it
We’re saving the best until last.
Hard to fit that massive member in 1920x1080.
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Isn’t the main problem with those models how you can create porn of everyone without their consent with those tools, too?
Sex trafficking vs virtual photoshop of your face…
Nothing new, and it’s a huge improvement over the current status quo. Not everything needs to be a perfect solution
Kidnapping someone isn’t nearly as easy as creating AI porn of them is… Dumb comparison.
Yeah so what. It’s not as if somebody is “sold on the market” because there’s a nude picture of them. Photoshop is not a real threat to society. We gotta stop making moral imaginations more important than physical things.
You do know how LLM are trained right?
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Are you actually asking?
The jist is that LLM find similar “chunks” out content from their training set, and assemble a response based on this similarity score (similar to your prompt request).
They know nothing they haven’t seen before, and the nicely of them is they create new things from parts of their training data.
Obviously they are very impressive tools but the concern is you can easily take a model that’s designed for porn, feed it pictures of someone you want to shame, and have it generate lifelike porn of a non porn actor.
That, and the line around “ethical” AI porn is blurry.
They know nothing they haven’t seen before
Strictly speaking, you arguably don’t either. Your knowledge of the world is based on your past experiences.
You do have more-sophisticated models than current generative AIs do, though, to construct things out of aspects of the world that you have experienced before.
The current crop are effectively more-sophisticated than simply pasting together content – try making an image and then adding “blue hair” or something, and you can get the same hair, but recolored. And they ability to replicate artistic styles is based on commonalities in seen works, but you don’t wind up seeing chunks of material just done by that artist.
Like, you have a concept of relative characteristics, and the current generative AIs do not. You can tell a human artist “make those breasts bigger”, and they can extrapolate from a model built on things they’ve seen before. The current crop of generative AIs cannot. But I expect that the first bigger-breast generative AI is going to attract users, based on a lot of what generative AIs are being used for now.
There is also, as I understand it, some understanding of depth in images in some existing systems, but the current generative AIs don’t have a full 3d model of what they are rendering.
But they’ll get more-sophisticated.
I would imagine that there will be a combination of techniques. LLMs may be used, but I doubt that they will be pure LLMs.
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Ok, you know it’s trained on existing imagery right?
Sure the net new photos aren’t net new abuses, but whatever abuses went into the training set are literally represented in the product.
To be clear I’m not fully porn shaming here, but I wanted to clarify that these tools are informed from something already existing and cant be fully separated from the training data.
Ah yes, the porn industry. Paragon of morality and respect.
hmmm sweetie but what about the only fans prostitutes? Racist much?
Welcome to the internet
Welcome to the internet
… where all monumental advances in technology are immediately sexualized and used for getting laid or viewing porn.
Pornhub is more trafficked than Amazon and Netflix, and had like 5x more visits than people on the planet last year.
Their IT infrastructure must be absolutely insane
Ethics of AI porn aside, can we talk about the Pornhub search function and how shit it is?
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Arguably a good application for AI image-to-prompt functionality, I suppose.
The trick is finding your preferred channels and just browsing those. I have a handful of channels I will happily browse for myself and a couple of channels for me and my wife to browse together.
Searching hasn’t really been worth anything for quite a while. I’m more likely to find something I like by clicking a previous video that was enjoyed and scrolling through the related ones.
I do something similar. When I find a video I like I browse the playlists.
I’ll just leave this here:
Automatic1111, depthmap script, image to image, click Left-right stereogram for vr or red-blue if you have old 3d glasses.
How good is the stereoscopic 3d image generation? Do you have some example SFW stereogram images produced with this process?
They are pretty good. Just don’t crank the 3D up to max, as it doesn’t know what is behind things in 2D images.
That was pretty good just by unfocusing my eyes like I do for Magic Eye posters.
Wow they are pretty good! Thanks!
Like I’ve been saying for years, AI doesn’t need to be sentient to royally fuck society. Just needs to be good enough to mimic you and ruin your life or take your job.
or take your job.
The unemployment line there makes for quite the mental image.
The “Erect Horse Penis - Concept LoRA,” an image generating AI model that instantly produces images of women with erect horse penises as their genitalia, has been downloaded 16,000 times, and has an average score of five out of five stars, despite criticism from users.
Listen it’s a niche market
They’re also creating a lot of images of maid uniforms wearing human faces making ahegao faces while standing on massive erect penis legs.
They post the eight images that wasn’t some body horror fever dream.
There’s a lot of human work that goes into (and has gone into) AI art generation. It’s just very obscured with just the final product.
Remember creepy people use AI. That’s also why a lot of AI stuff is or seems creepy.
They’re also creating a lot of images of maid uniforms wearing human faces making ahegao faces while standing on massive erect penis legs.
Finally there is porn for me
I’m glad you finally found ✨️representation✨️
Ha, the image description just says “An AI-generated woman found on CivitAI” even though that’s clearly the character Power from Chainsaw Man.
It’s clearly Barack Obama from the classical motion picture, Sharknado 4.
It’s like we’re looking at two completely different images.
Thanks for the links 404!
They’re also creating a lot of images of maid uniforms wearing human faces making ahegao faces while standing on massive erect penis legs.
They post the eight images that wasn’t some body horror fever dream.
There’s a lot of human work that goes into (and has gone into) AI art generation. It’s just very obscured with just the final product.
Remember creepy people use AI. That’s also why a lot of AI stuff is or seems creepy.
Who the fuck is buying this lol, also it’s considered public domain.
The problem with Public Domain is that it does not exist in most jurisdictions. There is no “Public Domain” in (edit: at least parts of) the EU, for example.
What do you mean? Anything that isn’t copyrighted is public domain, including old works.
In some countries, that might be the case. However, in Germany (where I live), there is no way to have something “not copyrighted”. The author holds the copyright unless explicitly licensed. (Here’s where the CC0 comes in handy, but the CC licenses weren’t made for software…)
Our § 29 UrhG explicitly denies the possibility to give up your copyright. Austria has similar laws. So no, nothing is “public domain” in Germany.
