Meta post I’ve decided to make. I enjoyed the unixporn subreddit a lot when I used reddit more. I enjoy customizing my linux de as much as the next nerd.

But you definitely shouldn’t use racist slang to refer to the process.

To be clear, I didn’t know the origin of the term ‘ricing’ until fairly recently. I was chattimg with my friend and used it to describe my de setup. They informed me that apparently it’s from car customization, and is a pejorative against generally asian men who customize their car to look like a racecar.

After learning this I was sad to realize just how engrained it is in linux de customization culture. I personally have stopped using the term, and I would ask everyone here stop as well.

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    The problem in this thread was civil untill you(i.e. hexbear) decided to come in and spew your bullshit all over the thread as you always do.

    You can save the “we came upon this thread organically” bullshit, I have seen no or almost no hexbear users in this community outside of this thread and now suddenly theres a swarm of you with your garbage ragebaiting and insults all over the place, somehow being upvoted despite most top level comments going against your agenda still being upvoted.

    Hexbear is a plague on lemmy, I can’t wait for the day of instance-level blocking, but honestly I expect you will end up defederated from most major instances.

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      Ahhh yes the problem is that Hexbear came in and agreed it is racist, and then the racists threw a fit.

      Lmao give it a rest. Calling you a racist isn’t abuse, you just don’t like being called on it and now you’re pissing and whining about it.

      Hexbear is a plague on lemmy, I can’t wait for the day of instance-level blocking

      It’ll be great, you lot will opt out of seeing us, and opt out of cultural opposition to us. Meanwhile the vast majority will not.

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          minor issue

          Casual racism != minor issue

          Denial of racism != minor issue

          Unless you’re a racist

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            You can strip the argument of all nuance and make all the false equivelances dichotomies you want, but you can fuck right off with it while you are at it, go crawl back to your imaginary arguments in your black and white world, you are clearly not here to discuss anything in good faith. I will engage with hexbear when you offer something of substance besides your adolescent maximalism.

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              There isn’t any fucking nuance.

              There is us pointing out something is racist.

              There are racists claiming it is not.

              There are racists claiming that the people calling you racist are being abusive for doing so.

              That’s it. That’s the discussion. And you look pathetic for it. You were on the side of every other word I mentioned earlier too.

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              I don’t understand how this was an issue of “lack of nuance” or “black and white” thinking… Either the term is racist or it is not? … Is it disparaging a group of people based on racial/cultural/ethnic stereotypes? Yeah. Is it reinforcing and normalizing those stereotypes and upholding an ideal “normal” that is associated with being part of the dominant group? Yeah. Does it seem petty and pedantic? Racism generally does take on a petty and pedantic character… When you go out of your way to deny these things, you are only doing it in service of upholding racist norms. You don’t have to continue to defend it, you can acknowledge that it could cause a community harm and move on with your life by avoiding the harmful behavior. Changing the way you speak might seem annoying or like an imposition, but if you think that racism is harmful and want to challenge it by being anti-racist, ultimately people have to change the way they think, speak, and behave… but it is a good change. Embrace it.

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                On you go with the imaginary argument. I am not with you so I must be against you, right? I do not have and never did have a problem with getting rid of the word.

                I will reitterate that the only problem I have is with the stinking garbage heap called hexbear.

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                  It is so interesting because I was engaging with you in a good faith, laying out an argument about why this might be more straightforward then you are letting on. But you called my argument imaginary and then called the instance I am a part of a garbage heap? Who is being uncivil?

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        Along comes another troglodyte, mothers milk dripping off his lips, hurling insults at imaginary strawmanned arguments. But hexbear is totally not a problem instance.

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          complains about a lack of civility

          Immediately calls a hexbear user a troglodyte and misgenders them (despite them very obviously having their pronouns in their name like all hexbear users) after being called out for racism

          thinking-about-it I wonder what social views this person could possibly have

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          when a conservative gets unreasonably triggered they are 5-15x more likely to start projecting

          mothers milk dripping off their lips

          this is very evocative dr ratso, would you like to talk some more about your relationship with your mother? thonk

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      Your comment does not belong in this subreddit. It does not add to the topic, if you think comments don’t fit in the community do report them and move on.

      Edit You also are quite a new user to the lemmy-verse from this month (compared to multiple year old users posting to you), which mostly is reducing the quality on communities on one hand and also got quite a few comments deleted. I urge you to read up on nettiquette and change your attitude if you want to be a positive contributing influence to this community.

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        Right, because hexbear coming in shitting on everyone and calling an entire community racist for unwittingly using a racist term in a context fairly removed from the original meaning is so helpful to discourse. Im only returning blows in kind. And I am so terribly sorry ye ole lemmy wizard, for speaking out of turn. Ill wait so I can speak with the rest of us, younglings.

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          Nobody has called the entire community racist, the callouts have been exclusively to people like you defending a term that obviously plays with one of the most common racial stereotypes about East Asians. Taking a racist term out of context doesn’t make the term not racist, it only means that a still racist term has gained even wider use.

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            Again I have personally not once defended the use of the term, I have only ever attacked hexbear code of conduct. I even stated that I am for not using it in a since (mod) removed comment. I thought the term was dumb even before I (like most of this comm) found out about the origins through this thread. The only context in which I have defended it is in this convo and only in the aspect of the response it has gotten from hexbear, which if you don’t feel is entirely disproportionate, we have nothing more to talk about.