• DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I don’t see the democrats trying to end democracy, dumbass, Trump and DeSantis both want to be dictators very badly.

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      1 year ago

      You’re right that they don’t want to end democracy. A case can be made, however, that they just want the power and control to do what they want to do as well which is usually just enough small potatoes to keep voters happy while still lining the pockets of THEIR rich friends.

      The times they’ve had control of the senate and house with a democratic president has amounted to nothing big or great for codifying some human rights (roe v wade) or even passing some major reforms for the country.

      I’m guessing the OP has all that mind when they made their comment and they aren’t exactly wrong. However, I don’t know what the right answer is because humans are so corruptable, but the democrats are the lesser of two evils currently.

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        1 year ago

        It’s sad that we’re in an era where any accountability at all is considered hostility to party. Even nuanced, well thought out takes get shit on. It’s as if everybody wants to be subjected to worse and worse times. We all need to realise that the flaws of the corporate Democrat world are holding us back, and no that is not to suggest the crimes of corporate Democrats are comparable to those of the virtual entirety of current Republican leaders who are actively trying to dismantle the system itself, but status quo politicians of any party have got to get put in check or we’re only going to continue to suffer as a whole.

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          1 year ago

          Fundamentally the problem is literally voting. Specifically first past the post voting. There is no viable mechanism to have more than two parties in a first past the post voting system and with only two parties you’re forced into voting against someone rather than for someone. Both parties oppose proportional voting systems specifically because they know it would weaken them, although only the GOP has specifically banned ranked choice voting in state and county elections.

          The very first step (but certainly not the last) in fixing our democracy must be to replace first past the post with some kind of proportional voting system. That is the only way we’ll get more political parties that better reflect the actual desires and opinions of the American public which in turn will help curb corruption in the political parties.

        • pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz
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          1 year ago

          You’re missing the point. Allowing credence to criticizing the Democrats undermines their ability to take up Republican seats in Congress, which is what people need to avoid the fucking Trumptards taking over and killing everyone else.

          I agree it’s stupid and we need a third party, but this is what other people want. They’re probably not wrong.