• sab@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Trying to read in good faith, maybe the user meant to refer to (right wing) Libertarianism or neoliberalism.

    Back before “liberal” became the preferred slur the American right could say in public, they would often seek to brand their ideology as liberalism in order to draw legitimacy from the high standing of classic liberalism. Libertarianism has liberal roots, it just blows a single element (freedom from state intervention) completely out of proportions.

    Academically, the father of Libertarianism (Robert Nozick) makes for a fun and interesting read, but he was torn to shreds by John Rawls (and, in my opinion and less famously, Michael Otsuka). If I remember correctly he ended up abandoning his own theory. Still it seems to have a particular appeal to Americans and their obsession about the self made man, property rights, and private wealth accumulation.

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      1 year ago

      Liberal means just freedom. BS about freedom only from state intervention was invented by capitalism.

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      1 year ago

      Still oddly doing the lifting for the republicans.

      They don’t care for nuance.

      They’ll use your hatred for your liberals to hate americas left.

      Sucks that EU has the tankie problem, but with all due respect, quit your bitching. I wish that was the form of fascism I had to worry myself with.

      The America right is murdering the American left.

      We are not the same.