If “Vote for Educated Leaders” is truly a controversial statement, then we’re all fucked.
Your leaders absolutely should be educated, not even necessarily in politics, but Bob next door who’s only got two neurons in his head fighting for third place shouldn’t be leading any country
The indian PM has a controversial masters degree ( mostly a fake one), so when someone says vote for educated people , he feels its an personal attack on him and his party !
You forgot to name the prestigious degree: “Entire Political Science”
It’s depressing that people still believe him on anything, but that’s the current state of things
Did you just wake up from hypersleep? We definitely are fucked my guy.
Can I hypersleep until we make our way round to not being fucked?
You want to use water? Like from the toilet?
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It’s so incredibly sad how adults need to be reminded and told to vote for people that have a background with real education. I can’t believe people don’t care about education when it comes to voting for someone to be put in your government. I feel sorry for those people who don’t. You know it’s the people who don’t that have lives that revolve around politics and consume it everyday
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It turns out that the more you know about the world, the more you tend to lean left.
It’s no wonder the right wants to keep people as ignorant as possible.
Traditional education !== knowing about the world
Identifying left and right is also ignorant. There is no balance to the thought process.
Can you read that out loud to me please?
I’m a centrist, I think about problems and the nuance involved without using identity politics to form my decision.
I’m not quite sure how you can say you don’t use identity politics when you called yourself a centrist. A centrist opinion may contain nuance, but a nuanced opinion does not make it, or someone, a centrist.
There is no identity bc centrists have an infinite amount of variations in beliefs while the left and right require a strict adherence that is often not even in line with the dichotomy that they have created.
Most people are centerists. My thesis is Poli-Sci was centered around the two party system being a downfall for democracy. However saying it’s ignorant to identify is not going to help the situation. At least for now where at least 40 percent give or take are on one end of the extremes.
How does pointing out cult like behavior not help?
How can you be a centrist when the Republican party is fascist?
Sure, let’s not vote for the person that dedicated years on studying history, sociology, economics and political science (or “social studies” if you prefer). Let’s instead vote for the person that stepped on everyone’s heads to make sure he and his company are successful! What could go wrong? Running a country is exactly the same as running a factory, no?
And I’m sorry that so many universities are heavily left-leaning. I’m sure that if the right stops burning books at every corner there would be more right-leaning universities (tho politics should always stay out of classes in my opinion).
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This is some of the best satire I’ve read on Lemmy yet.
“Lemmy: from the makers of Truth Social” - this guy
You seem to be hung up on the whole “education is a leftist ideology” mentality. It might be true, but the facts tend to have a left bias.
A good education doesn’t mean going to a very exclusive or expensive university. A well-educated person can come out of the local university or college. It really depends on the person. Being from Texas and having traveled to and lived in other states, I’ve met plenty of well-educated people on the right, left, and center. The problem is, people who disparage education either have something to gain from uneducated folks or those who’ve been convinced by those who have something to gain (and from what I can tell tend to be lacking in education themselves). It’s a long-known fact that educated people are harder to manipulate. Don’t get me wrong, very smart people can do dumb things too, but being manipulated is much harder.
As far as book burning, the last one of note in the US was in 2022 and reported here. Also, if child protection was a thing on the right, they’d really keep them out of church, although the Bible has been banned for being inappropriate reading material for children.
This is the dumbest comment I’ve seen on lemmy yet.
I seen a couple of these typical youtube commenters. “Left-leaning university”, shut the fuck up jeez. They are either completely lost here, or intentionally trolling, or pursuing their victim complex by venturing into enemy territory.
They’ve uniformly spent no time in or around academics. Most went to no school except “school of the hard knocks” as they like to say (not accredited).
Sure. Some of them went to college, but went in with pre-existing authoritarian sympathy, and learned next to nothing, doubting the evidence before their own eyes every day. These people call everything they disagree with fake news, having been educated only in ignoring evidence before their own eyes and ears, masters of cognitive dissonance.
Some of them are definitely trolling. They went to ivy leagues and know they are lying not just about why education trends leftward but about everything else too. Such as Tucker Carlson and Trump, who knows Trump lost and who are both vaccinated, for example. They know climate change is anthropogenic and they don’t care because it won’t affect their lifestyles.
You forgot the third option. That some of then are still in high school.
This is the dumbest comment I’ve seen on lemmy yet.
Well the first part is spot on…
Actually, there are numerous trades and other careers where you dont go to college and do very well.
The second part, not so much…
But please keep voting for people with degrees in History because thats working out awesomely.
Aren’t most lawyers anyways?
Eh, more like you want law makers to prove they’re smart enough to understand how the law works. Honestly, a high school education doesn’t prove that. It’s not that someone with only a highschool education can’t teach themselves law, only that they’ll have to find a different way to prove they have the ability to be a good administrator. Even just a college degree doesn’t guarantee the person is all that competent, but it’s better than no degree. It sucks that the world is that way, but any other education system just changes exactly where the lines in the sand are for quickly judging people.
Do you think the guy running his own lawn mowing business would be a better surgeon than the girl who spent 25 years in STEM studies, medical school, and residency?
You imbeciles think being a representative/senator/president is like volunteering at the after school bake sale. And that’s why we have such shitty politicians.
Good luck with that lawn mowing guy trying to remove your colon cancer.
Medicine has a clear goal- politics do not. That is one of many reasons that good governance should not be looked for only in academia. A really simple example, if I run for senate should I campaign on policies that help my state but cause diffuse harm nationally or should I campaign on policies that may cause specific harm to my state but are good nationally? I’m not asking which you would win with, I’m asking which is being a good senator? Should I respect the will of their constituents if it conflicts with my personal morality? If I’m a member of group which feels underrepresented in or betrayed by higher-level academia should members of that group vote in a member of academia regardless? Even within a technocracy, ignoring voters, there still has to be aligned goals with the “gatekeepers” to be included in the technocracy- otherwise they will see your conclusions and deem you wrong, unfit. People can be fully informed, acting in 100% good faith, and equally intelligent and still disagree on moral principles and therefore will strongly differ in conclusions.
“Medicine has a clear goal - politics do not. “
This has got to be the dumbest reply and rationalization I’ve ever heard. They are both professions. And best served by educated professionals. You think there’s no subjectivity in medicine? lol.
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Does the word “left” mean science to you?
No. It means ‘science, bitch’
I’d rather they are educated in facts and not feelings.
The facts they teach in school have been rigorously tested for centuries. They aren’t just some opinion of an angry Youtuber. If you don’t agree with them feel free to debunk them using science and receive your Nobel price.
That you don’t get how most facts support left leaning policies says more about you than about the left.
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I don’t think we went to school in the same dimension, because that’s not how I would describe math, science, and literature.
Ooooh. Now I get it. He’s a troll.
Educated means someone other than you.
Tell me you don’t know what the work “educated” means in a truly demented political rant without admitting you don’t know what the word means.
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Well, you did what he asked
Plumbers. He’s talking about people who’ve done plumbing appreticeships. It seems pretty obvious.
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“Those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it.”
ok boomer
We have found Tom McDonald’s Lemmy account
Yeah no the whole “Universities are leftist brainwashing stations” is the most bullshit take I’ve heard and almost always comes from people who haven’t been within 15 feet of a college.
Literally most of the shit I was taught was literally neoliberal capitalist-friendly stuff mandated by the states requirements for the degree. A ton of it was helpful in terms of building effective critical thinking skills but if anything the only instructors that ever introduced any sort of political slant was usually the right wingers or religious people. Literally had an instructor intentionally frame parts of our philosophy class in a way that made more pro-religious philosophy appear to be the correct answer. Students that spoke out and tried to say they favored things like determinism for instance were often shut down by the instructor trying to make us look at things like free will in a way that was more favorable to religion. Later found out after the class the dude was a former pastor.
And even the few openly left-leaning instructors were usually just generic neoliberal democrat voting cut-outs that for some reason Republicans and other fringe lunatics pretend are leftist-communist-extremist-goblins.
The vast majority of instructors just simply didn’t even make their politics affiliation apparent. There’s tons I couldn’t even remotely gauge just simply because they only taught and talked about class material.
. You know and I know that’s exactly what he means
It means it pisses off GOP’s
Very telling (and not without reason) that just reading the headline creates an automatic assumption that this occurred in a US “red” state.
I definitely read the headline and thought “please don’t be my state again”
Can you explain why?
(I am not from US)
The US republican/trump/conservative (known collectively as Nazi’s) followers are historically against education. These people are currently promoting a religious inquisition to eliminate books and curriculum in schools that they feel do not align with their hate based religious and intolerant beliefs. Teachers and librarians are being physically threatened and fired for refusing to comply with the book bans and twisted educational mandates. The politicians that populate the groups I mentioned are not considered smart themselves (like stating wind generators were a threat because they would use up all the wind eventually) so advising children to vote for educated politicians threatens their one and only goal, the retention and accumulation of more power.
Oh damn. Indian politicians are also very uneducated but they don’t usually go against education
Funny thing: in early years of Russian Federation “red state” meant southern pro-communism pro-education/healthcare/pension/science funding state.
Around 40% of Indian politicians are only educated up to school (stat might have changed), and the ruling party is quite dystopian in silencing narratives that go against it.
Sorry, but what does “up to school” mean? (I am American, and many of our education groups are schools.) Is that school prior to college, ending near age 18, or something else?
Edit: thank you, I now understand
Upto age of 16 or might include upto 18
till 10th grade (GED equivlent i guess.)
I would guess that most republicans politicians are actually pretty highly educated. Trump even went to ivy league schools. They value it, just not for their voters.
Not really. They use Ivy League schools more for making connections with other wealthy people and getting jobs through those connections than actually learning anything.
Yes I get that about india, but i’m asking why the other perso thought it was US first. Is there any similiar event or so?
Majority of users on lemmy are probably americans by now and they assume everything is about their country.
Luckily this one is in India
I mean if he chose to communicate his preference, that’s a problem. But “Vote for educated leaders” shouldn’t be exactly controversial. If you’re angry, is it because you know the ppl that you voted for are uneducated?
Teacher fired for promoting education. Got it.
Stop voting for fascists just because they blame all your problems on marginalized people, already.
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It feels like we’ve been devolving as a species for the last 20 years or so, I’m pretty tired of living in interesting times.
Last 20 years are very boring time. This is how stagnation works.
I’d love to see those who disagree with his statement answer the question “when is a good time to not vote for educated leaders?” that applies more than 0.01% of the time.
Even religious people shouldn’t disagree with it. If you want someone with religious background in then you want them to be educated in matters to do with that religion. That they themselves don’t consider that education is telling.
It’s really telling when politicians feel attacked by such a statement.
He’s clearly pushing the anti republican agenda… SMH
I guess what Lemmy has in common with Reddit is that nobody reads the article. This happened in India.
half of lemmy users are reddit migrants
Yeah, I could certainly picture some right wing nut complaining it’s an attack on their conservative/Christian values
This happened in India. Right wing nut, sure, but probably not Christian.
That’s why I used a slash, but yeah, I unfortunately assumed USA
That’s a real shame but it says a lot about the motivations of politicians and the fear they have of education. If I ran my own school, I’d be reaching out to him to hire him.
Yea, I agree with his statement but it was implied who he was talking about and when you add his social media posts showing a bias to a specific political party it was a no brainer and why would ask your students in a class to not vote for a particular political party.
While I agree that leaders should be educated. It’s not a teachers place to tell any student what or who to vote for.
Summarize what’s wrong with the US in one sentence:
Unacademy Teacher Fired for telling students to ‘Vote for Educated Leaders’ Remark during lecture
Read the article and tell me what’s wrong with your post in one sentence.
It’s a colony again?
Bruh, this literally didn’t even happen in the US; it happened in India.
Even if you didn’t read the article, it’s in the article URL LMAO:
Well, it sounds like something that would happen in US.
