The Goodhue Police Department resigned due to issues with the city’s pay, Mayor Ellen Anderson Buck said at a city council meeting Monday.

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    I generally agree with the ACAB sentiment, but they were being paid $22 an hour which is a pittance. I wouldn’t do the job for that salary either.

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      Pay depends on the area, if everyone else is making 13 then 22 is a kings salary. Should it work that way at this point? No but it does and being a cop statistically is less dangerous than my job.

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        I live in one of the poorest states in the country, and even there, 22 is barely above average. So that a fuckin’ lie. This state has TWO of the most dangerous cities in America. Not even the desperate would police this shit for that money.

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      Do what job? Eat donuts in the only dunkin donuts in a 1000 person hovel and watch YouTube? Seems like a pretty cushy job for 22/hr. Let’s not act like this place is the height of crime…

      Don’t ever make the mistake thinking that cops have a hard or dangerous job.

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    So right now with our current — trying to hire at $22 an hour, you’re never going to see another person again walk through those doors. That’s it," Smith said. “Unless you guys do a dramatic change.”

    Smith stressed the urgency of the matter and said smaller police departments he has looked into pay at least $30 an hour.

    I wonder if these cops support raising the minimum wage.

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        Yeah, except I know plenty of people who have gone into policing bright eyed and idealistic. Your coworkers are regular police who reinforce every bad thing you hear about.

        None of those people in question lasted

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    FUCK EMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

    You’re free. Do something other than police. You kinda have to, now.

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      I’m all for police reform, but you “fuck the police”/ACAB types are just anarchist idiots with serious inferiority complexes. Nothing in this article said anything about the police in question being corrupt of abusive of their power. They were just underpaid.

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          From the U.S.

          A lot of interactions with police, very positive overall. Biggest issue I ever have had was having to wait over a holiday weekend to get a 1st hearing before being released.

          Using the ACAB terminology is a gaurenteed way to ensure racism and bad treatment are fixed at a way slower pace.

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            Using the ACAB terminology is a gaurenteed way to ensure racism and bad treatment are fixed at a way slower pace.

            So you acknowledge police are racist and abusers and aren’t doing anything to fix it internally?

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              They still think the concept of a “good cop” exists lmfao. What it must be like to have such an elementary level take.

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                “There isn’t even a single good cop in the world” is one of the most edgelord 13-year-old takes I’ve ever seen, and you’re acting like his take is oversimplified?

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                  Right. The way the justice system works in America, specifically as it pertains to law enforcement, is an example of an institution that is against the people in general. It was not designed to help the people but to keep the powerful in power and wealthy. It isn’t about justice, but taking rights away from minorities. Any “good” cop ends up realizing that the whole institution is corrupt as fuck (as it exists in America) and quits or gets forced out for not being a corrupt piece of shit in one way or another.

                  Your ignorance of this is telling of how little life experience you have. Or you’ve just been white and suburban your entire life.

                  Edit: let me guess, you’re friends with plenty of cops and all the cops in your (white) town are sweet as pie!

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                I never said such. I just believe the solution to the issues at hand aren’t as elementary as you make it out to be. What we do know though, is making an enemy out of a group doesn’t make them more willing to reform towards our viewpoints. It creates more Trumps, Desantis, Abbotts followers that lock down from working against the issues at hand and double down on not listening to solutions.

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                  I said nothing about solutions to any issue at hand. The cops made an enemy out of the people first, probably right around the time the white supremacists were becoming the majority. The cops will never “reform to our viewpoints” because they exist to protect private property and the interests of the wealthy.

                  The fact that either you’re 18 and have almost zero political perspective or you just literally have zero political perspective is showing.

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              I believe that racism is rampant throughout all of humanity and causes abuses in our police force quite often, yes. But just like using all other generalizations, I don’t believe you are automatically a white, male, virgin, glasses wearing, over weight, etc just because you are on lemmy having a conversation.

              If we tell ourselves all cops are such, it leaves no room to fix any of the issues. It builds hate, mistrust, and increases problems. Getting rid of the police completely isn’t the solution even if we want a large reformat. No police would enter mafia/gang run very quickly, there is just to much money and not enough risk to not do so.

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                No police would enter mafia/gang run very quickly, there is just to much money and not enough risk to not do so.

                From one gang to another. Seems good. I’ll take the gang without federal/state government backed military equipment, drones, legal and nearly impervious unionization and command of the legal system, etc etc.

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                Well.

                If it walks like a pig and talks like a pig… these stereotypes must have just bamfed into reality?

                Your solution is to checks notes be polite to them? Fuck outta here with that noise. ACAB a a rallying cry has gotten traction and is finally putting pressure on those assholes to be accountable.

                We’ve tried time and time again to reform the police, to censure them… it’s never gotten better. It’s horrifically worse in a lot of ways today. The police in my city have been sued by the federal government, and it’s going as well as you’d expect

                Growing up as a 17 year old who listened to punk rock who wanted to drink and be a shit 17 year old, I hated the police. As a 47 year old homeowner and parent, my hatred of the policy’s brutality and lack of accountability is thousands of times more intense.

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        Nothing in this article said anything about the police in question being corrupt of abusive of their power.

        It said US Police…

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        Adequately paid when you account for all their OT and other forms of compensation. plus the perks of being unfirable and immune to 99.9999999999% of prosecution. Since police corruption is systemic, and these cops are a part of that system, these cops are by definition corrupt.

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    Part of the reason we have issues with the police force and their policing is that they aren’t treated like professionals and held to professional standards. We need to pay them like the professionals too, even if that means we hire less.

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        Politicians should have the same income as they did before becominh politicians

        This means they to get out and get a real job before going into politics. Seeing how things work.preventing dumb career politicians from having no clue how people live.

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          A lot of them come from money’d backgrounds. Would be easy to just get hired on a high salary from their own company or a family members company. Heck companies could use that to lobby even harder. Hire them on for a year at super high rate and then they get them in politics.

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          Or maybe the income for politicians should be on-par with any other civil servant. Post workers, trash collection truck drivers, state court clerks, natural park management, it’s all civil services.

          They argue that being a politician requires having tons of connections and being a “people-person,” but that’s only because they’ve made it that way over the past 50 or so years. There’s nothing about being a politician that is so essentially different than any other way to serve a government or to help a government serve its people.

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          Politicians should have their assets placed in a trust for the duration of their term, to encourage them to not run repeated terms. Then the politician should have to live on the median income for their district - to encourage them to improve the entire district and not just their own interests.

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    Contract out with the county. A city of 1000 does not need a full time officer let alone two full time ones and five part time officers.

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    Good.

    Now the rest of police

    from all departments

    need to just do the same

    and we’ll be good.

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      Beats a racist with a power complex anyday. Although there is a significantly higher overlap than you’d think.

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    Nice, now do all other police departments in the nation.

    Also, the absolute chads over in Powderhorn don’t call the cops anyway, so they will be unaffected.

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    2 Full-time and 4 part-time employees quit. The population is 1,000 people. They should find 2 solid officers and 4 crisis workers. They will accomplish more for the community than the people that quit.