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    Criminal traitor over party, party over country. It’s the MAGA way. Lost the popular vote twice, impeached twice, lost every court case trying to overturn the 2020 election, indicted three or four times so far? I can’t remember at this point. But he’s still their guy. Yes, it’s a cult.

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      The list goes on and on and on. Don’t forget all the creepy stuff like openly fantasizing atnout his daughter, or the fact that he is a convicted rapist, admitted to sexual assault and etc. A draft dodger making fun of vets, grown man wearing makeup and diapers making fun of other people physical issues. What a waste of carbon.

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      Cowards vote from fear. It’s their way. And trump has ensured their fear is not only sustained, but heightened. Remember the Mexican wall? That was a joke compared to the fear he has struck within his idiot base recently. These people are straight suggesting murder now.

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    This has been one delicious fucking disaster. He doesn’t stand a chance in a general. But he’s still managing to prevent the Rs from rebranding into something sane enough idiots can vote for.

    Don’t stop your opponent from making mistakes.

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      I would not assume he doesn’t stand a chance. He’s every bit as dangerous as he’s ever been.

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        You mean when Trump was an unknown quantity, when he was going up against another unpopular candidate who was attacked constantly for decades and had the FBI release damning evidence but keep the evidence on Donny secret?

        2024 is a vastly different race, because none of the above is true, and trump is going to have to try to get elected while he’s on trial for stealing documents and trying to start a coup. Plus, the worst they’ve got on Biden is Hunter, and that’s such a nothingburger that they’re now mad that they got what they wanted.

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          Trump was not an unknown quantity. He was elected back then precisely because he is exactly what the fascist republican party wanted then and continues to want now. And because people underestimated his chances.

          Ignoring the danger he poses now because “people surely know better” is insane. January 6th and everything that lead to it happened after 4 years of that man’s bungling administration and you want to believe that everything is going to be fine?

          Be optimistic if he loses. If he wins, the country is fucked. And until we know which way things go, anyone left leaning should treat this election as if we’re losing because letting our gaurd down has the potential of resulting in a Trump presidency with no brakes.

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      This has been one delicious fucking disaster. He doesn’t stand a chance in a general.

      This mindset is what let him win in 2016. I don’t know about you, but I generally try not to make the same mistake twice. Yes, he has numerous indictments against him, some federal, some state. However, there is no constitutional or legal precedent preventing a felon from becoming president.

      This is important to repeat:

      There is no constitutional or legal precedent preventing a felon from becoming president.

      No, it doesn’t matter if the indictments are federal or state. There is nothing disqualifing a felon from holding office. Furthermore, neither the states nor federal government can add a disqualifing condition without a constitutional amendment. I highly doubt a constitutional amendment will be written in those regards either, because I imagine there are many politicians at the state and local level who’d instantly lose their positions.

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        If convincted he’s ineligible under the 14th amendment, which is technically binding without further actions. Of course he will still be allowed to run and it will be up to SCOTUs Imo they are not as sympathetic toward trump as most people here would believe.

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            This is above my pay grade, but I think it is ultimately up to SCOTUS to decide, in the sense that the constitution can disqualify you from something even if you weren’t charged with the relevant laws. In other words, even if insurrection wasn’t a crime, and even if trump was not charged with any crime, I think SCOTUS still get to decide what is an insurrection and what isn’t. I am just speculating I am not a lawyer.

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          While that is true, I think you’re putting too much faith in the system. It requires a lot of people to put the US before their own safety (because almost guaranteed, any state that leaves trump off the ballot will have nutjobs trying to take potshots at government officials). Additionally, if he isn’t elected, there will likely be another riot, especially if he was left off the ballot; and if he is elected and then forcefully removed from office, there will likely be an even bigger, bloodier one. I’m not totally convinced that the government won’t take the easy path, and, if he’s elected, make a big huff and fuss about it while avoiding anything tangible because they’re too afraid of trumpites.

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            Yeah I agree with you. This is why I mentioned that he would still be allowed to run, ultimately someone would need to sue and get this to SCOTUS.

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        This mindset is what let him win in 2016.

        No its not. In 2016 the Democratic party thought they could win without progressives or leftists and they said fuckem’ along with the upper midwest. Democrats tried courting the center in 2016 and it failed.

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          … Yeah. Underestimating him and believing him to not be a threat is what lead him to win the election. The Democrats underestimated him and didn’t do their due diligence in reaching out to everyone and encouraging people to actually vote. That’s what I was trying to say.

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      But he’s still managing to prevent the Rs from rebranding into something sane enough idiots can vote for.

      I seriously doubt there’s any danger of that happening, but would that really be so horrible? if the republicans became more… sane?

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    It makes sense, really. He is the most popular candidate amongst conservatives because he most accurately reflects their personalities. He is the perfect representative of conservatism. Vile, grotesque and pure evil.

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      I saw a post about this on a conservative site, and they all took offense to the implication that he “needed to be stopped”. And no one even mentioned the ‘coronation’ part.

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    So this is really “silly season” when it comes to news and that apploes to political news like this.

    The primary season hasnt even started and they’re already saying trump has won. It’s nonsense. People can build and lose momentum over the course of the race. All that’s happened so far is the obvious challenger DeSantis has imploded. But it’s a big race and anyone could gain attention and votes in the primarys.

    Wenl just need to look back to previous races to see the bookies favourites not winning. Trump himself was an outside chance. Bill Clinton came back to win the nomination. The idea anyone has a clue what is going to happen in this race is nonsense.

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      The question to be asked though is is there anything Trump can realistically do to make him lose support among Republicans? Because it doesn’t seem to be happening.

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        An the others in the field arent going to win anything at under 10%. Desantis is closes at 14% vs Trumps 50% so yah unless the devil shows up and runs, it aint happening…

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        is there anything Trump can realistically do to make him lose support among Republicans?

        Choking to death on a hamberder might do it.

        Maybe.

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    Honestly this next election is shaping up to be a shit show… again. My prediction is that the Republican party puts forth another candidate who has his potential pool cannibalized by Trump running independently and Biden campaign come under question due to his old age and low approval rating leading to a push for a different blue candidate.