GM confirms $130,000 Cadillac Escalade IQ won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto | GM said it was going to drop Apple CarPlay and Android Auto in all vehicles, and now, that includes Cadillac’s l…::Cadillac confirms its new Google built-in infotainment leaves no room for Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. Instead, Google built-in is running the 55-inch infotainment screen.
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I’m not the target audience for this to begin with, but I refuse to own a car ever again that doesn’t have Android Auto. What a bunch of anti-consumer bullshit. What are the odds GM starts charging a subscription fee to access apps on these vehicles?
I thought they already announced they would be targeting their infotainment as a subscription based service.
A quick duck duck go: https://www.pymnts.com/subscriptions/2022/gm-rolling-out-dozens-of-new-subscription-offerings/
I refuse to own a car that doesn’t have a DIN slot for my own tech.
What modern vehicles still have that? Most of the cars I’ve had lately and aren’t even modern have proprietary shit
I have a 2016 Jeep which is relatively modern and installed an aftermarket head unit.
car makers started phasing out dins in 2013 and they don’t give warnings if newer models don’t include them, so you better buy sooner rather than later
It is unlikely that I will ever buy something newer than 2005. I’m in a 1994 right now.
I think the idea is to get you to pay for data for your car. Tesla is often cited as doing the same thing (eg no phone projection, use the built in), but their unlimited data price is super reasonable at like $100/year. I am not sure what GM is charging, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s more.
Yeah but I also already pay for a phone and am tired of being nickel and dimed at every opportunity. The price of the service isn’t necessarily the issue – it’s the fact that there is a price to begin with.
Totally agree. Don’t tell me more reasons why I want to pay like, “your car is a hotspot now!”. I can already do that with my phone. There’s no need to have a data plan per device in my mind if you already have a modem in your pocket.
I am not sure what GM is charging
To be honest, I don’t really care what it costs I wouldn’t pay. No car manufacturer in the world has ever produced a car with a good mapping system. I can’t imagine why anyone would pay anything at all for a product that’s worse than the free one in their phone.
And you can add horrible UIs to that list too, that GM system looks like ass
I’ve got a Dodge Journey they have horrible looking icons from 1995 with a shit looking red backdrop
Yep agree. Even if it’s super reasonable now, just wait until they’ve got everyone. It’s the enshittification of the auto industry.
What are the odds GM starts charging a subscription fee to access apps on these vehicles?
that’s why theyre doing it and both apple and google are helping them.
Ladies and gentlemen… FROM the company that brought us “Cadillac CUE” (all-capacitive-buttons information controls)…
…Something nobody wants!
I worked at a Cadillac dealership and I absolutely HATED the cars that had these. Barely functioned in the winter time
Had that in my '17 CTS, the screen did it’s normal “I’m in control now” thing of random touch inputs until I finally had enough. Bought an aftermarket screen without the gel layer and replaced it, it was much better than OEM.
55” infotainment screen, in a fucking vehicle? That’s what I have in my living room. 🤯
with an aspect ratio of 20:1 across the entire dash.
I still don’t understand why car brands don’t just use Android Automotive anyway. Most native infotainment systems in cars still look and feel like they’re from the early 2000s.
That 55-inch interface they’re showing off really looks like some weird 2006-ish concept.
Edit: Apparently, it’s running “Google built-in” which means that this particular system is based on Android Automotive OS.
I wonder how long before they stop pushing updates to it
That’s implying that they’ll push updates at all
We all know that the look of the interface will stay the same throughout the lifetime of the car. At least with CarPlay or Android Auto, it represents the interface of your phone. CarPlay is a hard requirement for my vehicles.
Nissan stopped updating the navigation for my 2016 car last year.
So… Pretty shit
I remember when updates to cars were called product recalls and they only happened in exceptional circumstances.
Not that I needed any more, but I’ll take reason I’ll never own a GM for $5000 Alex.
Back to Bluetooth and Google maps on your phone after the free data period ends. Such a bad move for consumers.
Y’know what would be great?
An industry standard system that would work properly with any type of phone, tablet or other mobile device.
Preferably one that doesn’t run like shit.
And while we’re at it, require physical nobs/buttons for basic navigation/climate control for safety purposes.
nobs
This made me laugh more than it should’ve.
And while we’re at it, require physical nobs/buttons for basic navigation/climate control for safety purposes.
AbsoFuckingLutely
Lack of AA isn’t the problem, it’s the 130k for that hideous monstrosity.
“You will own nothing and be happy”. The overall push of the whole tech industry is towards the SaaS model, where you would need to pay an endless list of third party services annual subscriptions in order to have some reasonable experience.
This is the only way for them to sustain the endless growth spiral their shareholders require. Sad days for humanity.
We need a open standard fully open source alternative.
Why? They work with the phone you have.
Neither CarPlay nor Android Auto are open source, nor are either open standards.
Not on GrapheneOS.
Is it fully open source? That is the key, transparency.
Will be interesting to see how many of these they actually sell. I’m guessing it will flop and the factory will be retooled to build a different EV in a year. Same with Hummer line. These models are wayyyyy too niche.
I mean the 2023 ESV sport platinum is MSRP 108k and you get 14/16mpg. So I mean if you were already looking at one and you now get 450miles per charge it may be worth it.
Definitely be interesting to see how they do.
I don’t think the market for these is consumers. I think it’s more targeted towards brands/companies. Suburbans are the “go to” vehicle for a lot of upscale valet services and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of those go electric to save on costs.
No problem, there are other cars to choose from.
Call me crazy, but the way the bottom control screen is off centered from the central nav/infotainment bit above it looks horrible and I can’t imagine buying such an expensive car with such an annoying design.
Eh. I have no CarPlay in my 2016 Prius and the proprietary system they have only makes me almost crash my car 30% of the time I use it so I can’t complain.
Oh my, since when do cars have HDMI in? That’s real luxury.
my friend has a ‘15 Honda Fit with a factory HDMI input - apparently it can be used when parked to project to the infotainment screen but I haven’t seen that feature used or on another vehicle since
