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    1 year ago

    Burning coal is cheap, that’s why we’re here. I’ll pay more for electric today to leave a planet for our children. Wish my parents did that for me.

    Only a fool would consider the cost in dollars alone.

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      1 year ago

      Nope, burning coal was cheap a long time ago and allowed the people to accululate enough wealth to push for more coal (and brain-wash people to believe coal is cheap; and also how expensive renewables are).

      The actual reality looks like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levelized\_cost\_of\_electricity#/media/File:20201019\_Levelized\_Cost\_of\_Energy\_(LCOE,\_Lazard)\_-\_renewable\_energy.svg And if you think that you need topay more for electricity to not destroy the planet that already their propaganda having done their work.

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        1 year ago

        Dollars is a metric that is easy to understand and complex problems are complex. Do you really think it’s that simple?

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          Some parts of it are… there is a certain amount of either nuclear base load or storage infrastructure needed.

          But more than 50% renewables are easily doable without much strain on modern grids (modern models for nuclear usually plan with ~30-35% minimal base load needed…).

          Also another argument for specific fossil fuels -domestic availability and thus more independence- is also a pro argument for renewables.

          So no matter where you stand, if you are not at least using (or planning to use in near future) 50% cheap renewables in your electricity mix (or see narratives about expensive renewables even) then you know that the decision is not taken for economic reasons but because decision makers are getting money to stick with more fossil fuels than necessary.

          Renewables are an economical no-brainer right now. Actual complexity of balancing out their fluctuating production with base load or storage comes much later (although in the case of nuclear the build times are often long enough that you should start soon). And still there are so many countries so far away from the absolute no-brainer amount of renewables.

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            1 year ago

            Hundred percent. I’m happy that the UK is considering going nuclear for the other 50% instead of just saying, “we’ve done 50% wind and solar so we’re done. Let’s jut burn coal and gas for the remaining 50%.”