For those who are wondering, yes, Wine is malware compatible so be careful about the EXEs you run!
This is why I always test suspicious files on my work issued PC.
You’re the reason my Mondays are always chaos
Then you’re not going to be happy with me deploying work production code via my dedicated porn box…
I see you work for my company…
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[Gru, the long-nosed protagonist of the “Despicable Me” franchise, presents to the camera, pointing into the air and smiling. Behind him is a flipchart with text reading:]
And the best part about using Linux: No viruses!
[Still presenting, Gru has his hand in a C shape and his head down as he peers at the gap between his fingers. The text now reads:]
Look at this, a website downloaded a malicious .exe on my machine.
[Gru now has his hands pointing down, fingers splayed, still presenting. The text now reads:]
*Double Click*
See? Nothing happe…
[Gru looks back to the flipchart in a double-take, his eyes round and wide and his mouth downturned. The text still reads:]
*Wine is launching*
[The Wine logo: a slightly tipped wine glass with red wine sloshing inside it.]
I am a human who transcribes posts to improve accessibility on Lemmy. Transcriptions help people who use screen readers or other assistive technology to use the site. For more information, see here.
Oh gods I’m tired. I read:
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And saw the line break and thought “Wow. That was a good transcription.” I think I need to go back to bed.
Good human
Does Lemmy not support alt text? I can’t add alt text from Infinity for Lemmy; is that because Lemmy doesn’t support it or just my client? Because they really should.
It would be great if it had proper alt text. But since an image post can have an additional text body you can put an image description there. I guess it’s a good idea to wrap it in a spoiler/
<details>element.Image description
Gru…
::: spoiler Image description Gru… :::</details>
I feel like, for some weird reason, nobody on lemmy knows how meme templates are supposed to be used.
It’s like watching my parents try to meme and I’m here for it.
People bitching about meme usage. I am home.
Same thing happened on Reddit, honestly.
“Well no problem, they can’t run without root privileges!” -/home left the game
Time to go back to our “roots” then.
Reminds me https://xkcd.com/1200
Even better: Wine defaults to giving access to your whole drive to new prefixes.
Though “only” your personal files are at risk cause of permissions.
You really don’t think Linux has viruses? I’m confused by this post. Is it an excuse to shit on wine and windows?
There are very few Linux viruses. With its low market share, it’s not a juicy target, or at least not desktop users.
Yeah that kinda thinking is really not useful. Linux is a very very juicy target these days due to your thinking. Desktop Linux installations are riddled with poor security settings and many server features enabled by default. IOT devices and self spun servers are regularly deployed unsecured as well.
I disagree. Linux is run on a large number of servers. It may be a less tempting target for Trojan style malware, but exploits and vulnerabilities for Linux are very valuable since you can gain access to large amounts of valuable data.
They’re super rare. I’ve not gotten one once in decades, whereas I’ve encountered countless viruses on Windows. Linux is more secure, but also it’s just a smaller target. Best way to avoid viruses is to use an OS nobody else wants to use *taps head
I think you have a false sense of security with regards to Linux vulnerabilities and exploitations. There are dozen of known exploits throughout the Linux ecosystem that are publicly disclosed frequently.
What makes you think Linux is more secure than windows? I’m not trying to start an argument here I’m just curious.
I find the Linux ecosystem has far better updating mechanisms than Windows and it doesn’t have as much backwards compatibility cruft as Windows. That and the open source nature I think is better at having exploits uncovered. I’m not saying Linux is perfectly secure, but that it’s more secure than Windows. But I think the biggest reason it’s less likely to get viruses is just that it’s a smaller target and that hackers aren’t spending as much time trying to attack it, plus the users are more tech savvy meaning any attacks will be less lucrative.
it’s a smaller target and that hackers aren’t spending as much time trying to attack it
It’s the most popular server system, so I’m not so sure about that.
The target user base is much smaller. Most viruses are spread through user error and server administrators are far more competent than a typical OS user. Also, typical server exploits lead to exposing credentials rather than spreading viruses.
Software is usually installed from repositories and not random websites, so there is less room for user error in general. Even if you download an executable file, you will most likely have to give it permissions to run first. So I think it’s more immune to viruses not because of its users, but because of the way it’s designed.
Vulnerable to malwareMalware compatibleAnd anti cheat don’t work… Malware that gets into internals of windows probably fail like anti cheat
It can still corrupt files. I knew that wine was the shut when I had to delete my wineprefix because Eve Online complained about corrupted file. Even better, a virus scanner would run and detect the malware.
unless its just simple ransomware that will nuke your /home (or Z:\home) content if you don’t sandbox it
Windows version of rm -rf /* would work
technically that is only true if the malware in question does something in the kernel or relies on an unimplemented wine api call, since a lot of malware is an infostealer or ransomware, its quite likely that it’ll work just fine under wine
I use Nix, so I’ll just reinstall my system if anything really bad ever happens. Sometimes I reinstall just because. My important files are on a delegate drive I have to manually mount, so I’m not too worried.
One of the things I learned several years ago was how to set up my HD so that the system and home folder are on different partitions. It isn’t terribly hard to do, and every OS installer I’ve used gives you the option. It’s served me very well.
What’s the purpose of having system and home folder on different positions?
You can easily install a new system if your system gets borked or you just want a new distro, and you won’t lose your files.
I don’t have a need for that atm(like I said, my laptop has a separate drive), but will look into that in case I ever need it in the future. My problem with this personally tho is that I share my drive between Windows and Linux, and Linux doesn’t exactly play well with NTFS. Sounds really cool however for having a multi boot Linux system, with all your files shared between distros.
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And now some normie is going to think that Wine is actually a virus.
I mean if you consider Windows a virus, by extension…yes? /s 😜
The year of Linux desktop! Complete with the malwares!
I install all wine related stuff inside podman container usin a nice thing called toolbox. That way your system is not polluted with all those libraries and bimboze stuff runs nicely inside a box. Not bulletproof but better than nothing
Could you please provide a link for the toolbox utility? I’m having trouble finding it. Thank you :)
Here’s the git repo https://github.com/containers/toolbox
A similar program named distrobox is also popular, as it has certain features (exports) and more images: https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox
Oh cool. I wasnt aware of distrobox.
Best self checkmate I’ve seen tonight
Damn, I wanted them free fortnite bucks.
