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Apple still giving software support to the iPhone 8, released almost 6 years ago. Is there currently another company still pushing updates to a phone that old?
My 6s still gets software support, does it run the latest OS? No, of course not and nor should it. But Apple is still supporting/supplying my old ass iPhone general software/security updates. It’s in a company’s best interest to get customers to purchase their latest products but that shouldn’t undercut their commitment to their older products. I have stayed an Apple customer not because of their new products but because of the longevity of their old products/ support for said products.
Is that an argument in favor of glued-in batteries, though? A lot of users’ phones aren’t going to make it for six years if it’s non-trivial (or impossible) to swap out the battery for a new one.
It uses pull-tab adhesive, which even most Right-to-Repair advocates consider ‘sufficiently repairable’. When it comes to glue, Samsung’s worse by a mile.
The battery is replaceable. Take it to any Apple Store and they’ll swap it for you for $89 or so. The adhesive is kind of like what they use on those 3m command strips.
If you think paying a third or even half of the current value of your phone to replace its battery is okay…well that’s your loss I guess.
You can’t call a device sustainable when the cost to repair it is more than what most people are willing to pay.
The most sustainable phone is the one you already own
and that’s coming from Fairphone, a company that sells more sustainable devices. Imagine the footprint of other brands.
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We need to take a page from the EU and force this stuff to happen by law. Expecting for-profit businesses to do anything they’re not legally required to is simply naive.
I live in the EU and I even wish for a bit more aggressiveness regarding laws like this. It’s a very slow moving machine, but I feel like it does have the ability to create change.
It 100% does! The next iPhones will have USB-C in them, and that’s not because Apple thinks it’s time to deprecate Lightning. They love their proprietary USB 2 connection! They were forced to upgrade, and you did that!
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Does anyone know if he really uninstalled GrapheneOS of his device after the disagreement with Daniel Micay (former lead developer of GrapheneOS Project ) or it was just a clickbait?
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Capitalism won’t save the planet.
Rejection of it will.
iPhone batteries are already pretty easy to replace. I’ve done it dozens of times for several different models. It requires two screws, a bit of heat and a suction cup, then a couple more screws and some pull tabs. Usually takes under 30 minutes to do.
I don’t know how you could make it much easier while keeping the waterproofing. Rossman is a highly opinionated guy and I appreciate his advocacy, but he also makes no attempt to be fair to the product designers and is very biased.
If Fairphone can do it, I would think a company valued at like 3 Trillion dollars could do it…
Fairphone 4 isn’t IP68 though, it’s IP54. I personally don’t care much about waterproof vs water resistent, but let’s not pretend these two ratings are identical.
Yeah well, my dad’s phone is an IP69 and it can beat up your dad’s phone
It’s not as waterproof as the iPhone. Also likely made of entirely different materials.
Every time I see Rossman’s face he is butthurt about Apple. I don’t know if it’s just the reporting or does he ignore issues presented by other manufacturers
He has been running a repair shop for apple products for a decade. So he is more knowledgeable about them as well as more affected by their choices regarding repairability.
He does often mention that others do it too, and has videos about other companies like Samsung, or camera companies, just not nearly as much.
Apple isn’t perfect, but they are a great target to get clicks. I’ve been repairing phones, as a charity for kids in need for years, and they can be annoying to fix but they’re way more straightforward than most Android phones. Parts are usually really cheap and easy to find too.
He should be going after the $300 Android phone that is made to be disposable and is basically unrepairable. I don’t even bother with those anymore.
If you watched any of his videos you’d know the answer and you wouldn’t have made this comment.
I don’t and I did. What’s your point? I’m not gonna watch some YouTuber I’m not interested in just to find out if he is butthurt about other things than
Doesn’t this guy own a phone repair company, and so would have a lot of interest in making an argument for that?
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…So he wants to expand into phones. And I wouldn’t, I just don’t like when guys pretend they’re not doing the exact thing apple is doing.
Have you considered he opened a repair store cause he’s sick of the bullshit consumerism and irreparable devices
He didn’t open a business to make money? So it’s a non-profit?
By your logic, any business is evil because they make money and exploit the customer. Now you win the argument, go home.
Any business is evil*
*Except apple \s
I never said it’s evil, I just don’t like when dudes pretend they’re not doing the same thing apple is
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I used to watch his content a couple of years ago and I remember him saying multiple times that he reaches his goal if he goes out of buisness. Devices being so easy to repair, that his services are no longer needed would be a reason he’ll gladly accpect as a failure of his buisness. I haven’t watched him in a while so I’m not sure whether he still holds that opinion. But given that the laptops, phones and harddrives waiting for repair where literary piling up in his workshop, it’s more likely that his shop burns down than him running out of customers. What he lacks is time, and skilled workers to fullfill orders, which are much harder to come by than broken electronics.
this guy just wants to help you replace parts of your phone instead of your whole phone
I don’t see the issue
No, he used to do phones a long time ago though iirc. He’s repeatedly said he doesn’t want to get back into phone repair because there’s no margin.
It’s the opposite for his business. His business become useless if people can replace batteries by themselves what the EU rule states.
Are you under the impression everyone changes their own cars oil
Cars oil need more steps than removing the back of a phone and place a new battery.
Even so, what the problem with that? He advocate and put a lot of effort to change repairability and is beneficial to a lot of people, the Apple side of repairability is beneficial for whom?
Louis Rossman is a pile of BS.
Some elaboration might be needed.
They’re an apple fanboy
I think that’s how New Yorkers say “Hello” to each other.