• SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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    Look up “statistics drag queens crimes against minors” on Google.

    Now do the same for “statistics priests crimes against minors”.

    Notice anything interesting?

    If a certain narrative is relying only on isolated stories and journalistic reports, and the other has statistical studies to back up its claims, I’d trust the latter to have a closer grip on reality.

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        This weird whataboutism that religious apologists engage in speaks really bad about you, but I’ll bite.

        Any institution that gives adults authority over children and creates room for abuse should be scrutinized and have tight checks and controls. Fortunately, many educators across the West are taking action by teaching children about consent so that they’re capable of protecting their rights and calling out abuse against themselves as early as possible. Unfortunately, I’ve seen plenty of Conservatives lashing out against this and religious schools have a worrying tendency to resist incorporating comprehensive education about consent into their curriculum.

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          Most of the people I’m around believe that priests and drag queens abuse children so that specific argument isn’t helpful. The issue is their news sources confirm and compound their general fear of the unknown.

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          As if bring up priest when other people are talking about drag queens isn’t literally whataboutism.

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      I have not yet looked at the comments.

      But given the weird tone and low quality of the anti Muslim memes combined with the aggressive, “nobody wants to criticize Islam!” performative outrage, it’s pretty clear we have a non-negligible alt-right presence in this community.

      So I think a fair guess is that I’m about to see some poorly researched anti-trans propaganda?

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        Anti-Muslim =/= Anti-Islam. If you instinctively react to criticism of Islam in a way that you don’t react to criticism of Christianity, you likely have a bias that you may want to check out. Broad criticisms against Muslims and/or Arabs is hate speech, and in certain cases, racism; criticizing Islam is as necessary for any society that wants to get rid of moral dogma as it is criticizing any other major religion.

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          1. This and this are both higher quality memes than this and deserve more upvotes.
          2. There are comments on the lower quality one implying it has less upvotes specifically because it’s about Islam. Not because it’s lower quality.
          3. This criticism (of people who understandably downvote low-quality memes) is performative outrage, and is more telling than this page’s alleged bias against anti-Islam memes.

          Which of these claims do you take issue with?

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            I agree with your first two points, but I think that the third one denotes lack of nuance.

            Take a look at this thread. There are plenty of well reasoned anti-religion arguments that are found to be controversial (looking at the upvote/downvote proportion) to a degree that you aren’t going to see in a post where the object of criticism or mockery is Christian. The meme itself isn’t the epitome of comedy, but it’s close to the average to the channel; the essence of its criticism is correct and the target is religious figures, so I think my narrative explains that situation better.

            This doesn’t mean there aren’t also people here who are motivated by bigotry, which we should shut down. In fact, I think that a lot of well meaning progressives instinctively suspect that, which is why they become overzealous at the minimum suspicion of racism, but take it to the worrying extreme of being suspicious of criticisms that they’d agree with if they were directed at the religions they grew up with.

            • OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one
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              Yeah, that “gentleman that he was” comment was A-tier sarcasm – vicious and beautiful. I wouldn’t be surprised if the 14 downvotes were just people concerned that a burn like that would speed up global warming.

              That last bit was a joke, but the rest was true: it was a well-researched, incisive comment and did not deserve the downvotes it got.

              I can see why there would be a danger here. If it wasn’t for the 64 upvotes, a deconverting Muslim might find this and feel like criticism of their “prophet” was somehow off-limits. They should always feel like they can come here and trash their religion just like we trash ours. It should never feel off-limits.

              Although… now that I’m trying to imagine how it must look through the eyes of a deconverting Muslim, I’m very sorry, but I badly need to go on a rant now.

              Okay. Rant over.

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    Bottom looks like the Fabulous Power Rangers. Power rangers have done nothing but save the planet time & time again. We should be grateful for their service

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    the bottom is just exhibitionist autogynophiles forcing us to watch them in fetish as they demean women and demand respect from society. literslly just blackface for women i hate it so much. im not claiming however we’ve seen large rape amounts by them so top is way fucjing worse. both fucking suck though

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    Both groups had been involved with exploiting children. Percentage comprision of crime/population reflects both in bad lights.

    I don’t think this meme does what OP think it does

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        No of children abused by priests are shamefully large. But no of priest are too. So even if there are few cases of child molestation by drag cases, if you’ll calculate on percentage itll look comparable. Both the scenarios will not yield more than 1 percent ( i am taking about higher side)

        That’s why I don’t think that this meme is doing what OP think it does

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      Speak for yourself. I would rather leave my 7 years old with any drag queen artist rather than a priest alone in a church. Hell it’s not even close. Just thinking about that makes my skin crawl

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        Statistically your kids will be safe with both.

        Liberal night feel safer with drag and conservative might feel safer with a priest.