I’m scared shitless that I will make it to 100.
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Rather than losing my loved ones, I think I’d be more scared of losing my love for them. Either via a cold heart or dementia.
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Dementia scares me too. I’ve seen it with two people now. It’s like they’re living in dreams all the time. Turn a corner or something changes and it’s a whole different scenario and you don’t know what’s going on.
I get night terrors. Some dreams seriously feel like they last for days and it’s next to impossible to wake up. Living like that 24/7 at the end of my life sounds horrifying.
This. No one realizes that your probably not gonna make it to 100 in perfect health. If your body doesn’t go, it will be your mind. Either way, it does not sound appealing.
If nothing else, the arthritis has gotten so bad, you wanna off yourself anyways.
Hard pass.
I’m 37 and already broken.
My back is killing me, the sciatica makes sitting down hard. My ankle is fucked from too many injuries doing shit like tough mudder because when you’re young you’re invincible. Top that off with an immune disorder and asthma and it’ll be a miracle if I make it to 50 with a good quality of life.
Dude. Sciatica is the worst. Every once in a while I injure myself and can barely stand for days.
The only thing that helped was this old, Hispanic “healer man”, that massaged the nerve back into place. It’s not like woo woo healing and its not an actual massage. This man just knew anatomy really well and could feel everything out by touch alone. It took 15 mins and I was pain-free, although I had to go back a few times until it set. Hiking helped the muscles get strong enough to keep it in place.
I’ve gone to several other people that say they do similar things, including ones near the boarder, but they’ve never been able to fix it. Western Doctors were completely useless, they couldn’t even diagnose me properly. The next closest thing would probably be a sports massage therapist.
This man was apparently known far and wide, with people comming from other states to see him. Any one in my local hispanic community i mentioned it to, was familiar with him.
Sadly, he was old and stopped working his magic around the time covid started, due to him and his wife’s, unrelated, ailing health. I’ve been searching for someone else ever since. I’m sure there are others like him, there are definitely imitations. I have to assume someone else has excelled at this practice, and this old man wasnt just a one off.
If you have any contacts in the hispanic community, that may know of someone like him, I’d say it’s definitely worth a shot to at least ask around.
I don’t wanna get to the point where it seems miserable just to, like, walk or something. I don’t mind taking heart medication, walking with a cane, stuff like that, but I don’t wanna live in near constant agony just trying to get through the day.
You should try drugs
Waaay ahead of you there, partner!
Which ones? I feel like I’ve tried them all
all?
That seems unwise.
My twenties were rough
Mine too but luckily I managed to leave some a mystery.
Ok that’s fair. I’ve never done heroin.
Me neither! Always knew that was one I did not want anything to do with.
there’s far more addictive opiates available these days anyway.
drugs, you say? hmm mmm…
We have robots. It’s the future now. We should be retiring at 85 while the robots live in luxurious sky cities.
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlord.
We should be retiring at 50. This is bullshit.
We should be building a society where the concept of retiring is alien because the entire point of living isn’t to work.
RIGHT???
because the entire point of living isn’t to work.
But the point of living is simply to survive and procreate. There’s no innate requirement of “living” to be not working… we worked hard for thousands of years just killing things to eat.
It is. We are chasing an egregore all the while destroying our planet. We need a mentality change, one that realizes we never removed ourselves from the same rat race for survival the rest of the life on this planet is in. We act like we are above our ecosystems, we are not. If our main focus was something else besides money, we might make it. But if we are only chasing the dragon, we will follow it to our deaths.
That is almost impossible. Even if we had machines and robots, there will always be the necessity for people to work
Do you mean this as in robots cannot do it all? Because I’m pretty sure they soon will be able to. Or do you mean it in that humans need challenges to make their lives feel complete? Because I would agree with that.
Wr should be able to retire whenever we want. Fuck work.
If you have enough money then ya
Women in China retire at age 50, men at 60
how are retirement plans in china? are they good?
Pretty good. My mum’s living in Shanghai (most populous city in China) and has been a pensioner for 20 years. It’s enough money to get by and now that she’s 70 she also receives monthly coupons for her neighbourhood canteen (although food is already very cheap)
really? that seems unsustainable, but would explain a few things I suppose.
Unsustainable??? Have you seen how many people there is in China? They could probably retire at 30 and still have enough people to fill in the jobs.
China has a bad ratio of young people to old people. They have a lot of people, but as the population ages there will be fewer working people supporting more retired people. It’s not just about money either. There are a finite number of nurses or caretakers in a country at any given time, so it will mean higher ratio of people needing care to those able to give it. It’s a complex issue that almost every country is going to be dealing with more in the future, but China will probably feel it more than average.
Keep in mind China has a much tighter family structure where children look after their elderly parents, and in return grandparents provide free childcare so both parents are able to work full time. Nursing homes are not incredibly common but it might become a bigger problem as more and more young people move away from their family in the countryside to work in the bigger cities.
Oof. Check out what retirement ages were in the USSR. They were very similar to China with options to retire earlier if you worked more physically demanding jobs.
Turns out retirement ages in the imperial core have always been worse and since there is no big bad red to be scared of, the capitalists don’t feel the need to make the same kind of concessions they needed to make to prevent similar uprisings in their country in the past.
Your life is being stolen from you for someone else’s profit. It will always be this way under a capitalist system.
I mean it depends on what you want to do in life, some people live for flipping burgers, others live for going to the moon.
People love to have something to live for, but they end up making work their personalities because they have no time or energy for anything else. Turns out if you give people time to actually build a life, they don’t want to go to work constantly.
You can retire at any age you want lol. Most people didn’t live in their means nor did they save for retirement starting at 18/22. This was possible 30 years ago. These days? Not so much.
It doesn’t mean you can’t leverage it way better than most though. Starting a Roth IRA saves more money than even paying off your house loan in half the time. That’s saving an extra $70,000 for most. Putting into retirement early triples that lol.
Compound interest via stock/bonds is a bullshit money generating hack made up by rich people to get richer though. The poors literally get their dregs from riding on their coattails then acting like they invested well. Nobody wants to admit that you should be able to retire indefinitely by what amounts to hoarding above a certain dollar threshold though lol.
Is it really just a simple matter of living within your means when you are constantly bombarded with the idea that you are inferior for not having that shiny new thing and banks are constantly trying to push you into predatory debt schemes like credit cards?
At that point, I don’t blame people for not having a retirement fund. This is a systemic problem, not an individual failure and we should look at changing those systemic failures rather than pointing the finger at people and saying, “you fell for our bullshit and now you are poor. Shame on you!”
I just want wages to increase to a point where people with a decent education can afford a home without any major financial stress.
It’s not normal to have professionals with bachelor’s degrees not being able to afford a home.
I don’t disagree, but people get confused by average lifespan because it includes babies that die. If you live to 60, in the USA you’re expected to live another 21.4 years (almost 82). https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/05/long-life-does-not-always-mean-a-healthy-life-in-old-age.html
And that number is still an average. But I get it, 50 still isn’t the middle.
People don’t understand what life expectancy means, specifically because 99% of the time, people are talking about life expectancy at birth. What life expectancy st birth means is that half the babies are going to be dead before X years (in the case of OP picture that mean half are going to die before reaching 73 yo), so yeah, the majority of people is going to be 50 yo at some point of their life.
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
And interestingly 38-39 is when your expected remaining is your age.
According to my kids:
0-30 is young.
31-60 is middle aged.
61-90 is old.
Over 90 is fucking old.
How fucking old are your kids for them to say that? Real kids would definitely say that 25 is approaching retirement age.
Same, even when I was in Jr High I thought people about to graduate college were old and may well be middle aged compared to me.
All kids are real kids. Maybe the kids you know are just dumber than this guys kids 😂
The whole point of calling somebody “middle-aged” is that they’re in that indeterminate space where they definitely aren’t young anymore, but they aren’t like, old, old, yet, basically they’re still able-bodied enough to hold down a job.
Not one. Not the other. Somewhere in the middle. Middle-aged.
30 isn’t so old, but it depends hard on the person in question, some are still in great shape, but many 30-year-olds have been nursing a back problem and/or jacked knees for years by the time the birthday comes, they sure as hell don’t feel young. Some 30s haven’t had kids yet, some of them have kids in middle school. So that averages out, and we onboard you to this shitty party at 30. If you can still rock the swimwear at 30, do it, and don’t take it for granted.
For the record, we don’t care what children think old is. Children are insane.
Fuck. I’m really middle aged aren’t I…
You and me both Obi.
middle aged would be around 36.
I didn’t come here to be insulted.
Me: *turns 51 in a few days
Also me: “fuck”
Spitting truth
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Thanks for starting my day with giving me a midlife crisis.
Brah, I kinda figure education that was for you didn’t count … If it helps
eh, you’re free to retire in your mid 30s. it’s easy. i retired in my late 30s, then went back to work again when I ran out of money a few years later. it was nice, i look forward to retiring again.
Most people would call that a sabbatical.
Interesting. Is retirement just a sabbatical until death?
Did you FIRE and calculate wrong or had a bad few economic years?
Avg life span is 80+ in most countries…
I thought 50 was the middle of your adult life, 20-80 ish years old
This was my understanding as well.
I’ve always viewed middle aged as 40s
I agree here.
According to some module I had to take yesterday, 18-44 is “young adult” and 45 to something is “middle aged.”
If they told you 36 is middle age you would be less inclined to live
Yeah talk about a depressing thought
The average life expectancy of men in the US is 73 (it was 74 pre-COVID).
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Right cuz that’s why people work til 65. Totally just a choice/s
