Sounds like a terrorist threat to me. Unfortunately, our next administration is in bed with the terrorists.
Doxing is a terrorist threat…?
Edit: Downvote me if you want, but I legitimately don’t understand. Is there a joke im missing…?
Yes, it’s a terrorist threat. The point of the threat is to scare Wikipedia editors away from editing the site so they can fill it with their propoganda.
I vaguely remember republicans calling folks terrorists that doxed people for pushing nazi propaganda. Everyone was clowning on them then.
I hope HF get the karma they deserve asap.
basically the same thing they did to abortion doctors like dr tiller.
It would be a real shame if our furry overlords or some other group retaliated against the heritage foundation
We need anonymous back
Indeed, +1!
Ai dump but you get the picture
Anonymous has been able to accomplish a variety of things, including:
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Supporting the Arab Spring: Anonymous hacked into government websites and took them offline in Egypt and Syria. They also distributed anonymising software for protesters and helped share videos of the uprising in Tunisia.
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Fighting child pornography: Anonymous has exposed enterprises that provided a platform for child pornography and helped in the arrest of Internet predators.
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Protesting against Scientology: Anonymous launched an online offensive against the Church of Scientology, including phone, fax and e-mail spamming, and DDoS attacks.
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Taking down government websites: Anonymous has taken down government websites in response to a variety of issues, including stringent LGBT laws, imageboard censorship, and government oppression.
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Exposing corruption: Anonymous has published usernames in relation to nefarious activities and outed the owners and operators of Freedom Hosting for their support for child pornography.
These are just a few examples of the many things that Anonymous has been able to accomplish. While their methods are sometimes controversial, there is no doubt that they have had a significant impact on the world.
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Why, did they actually accomplish anything?
Our furry overlords are not enough, we need a team of Luigis.
What about
He become too powerful
Whoa. I didn’t know they made Luigi in a fuckable format.
Found the furry!
This is Lemmy… that’s not at all difficult. This platform is mostly furries, communists, and Linux users… as well as the mythical furry communist Linux user.
Thank you to the Heritage Foundation for reminding me to donate to Wikimedia, almost forgot to do it.
Heritage Foundation plans to doxx and target Wikipedia editors in service to Zionism
Kinda burying the lead with that headline.
Maybe just dox Heritage Foundation members right back …
You can just go to their website. They aren’t hiding.
But they’re also the friends and scions of the mega-wealthy, put in these positions specifically to fuck with the lower classes. If they’re feeling a bit of impunity right now, you can hardly blame them.
I don’t think they’re targeting the board or the ex3acs. They’ll target the volunteers who do the actual editing.
I would think Luigi Mangione and what he represents might make them nervous.
I think what he did was exciting. But what he represents?
He took the School Shooter mentality to Wall Street.
It’s not school children ruining our lives, so maybe I’ll just shrug then offer thoughts and prayers if it starts happening regularly.
It’s not school children ruining our lives
It isn’t a single fungible CEOs, either. The problem is systemic, not individualistic.
Shooting a bunch of Sandy Hook middle schoolers is definitely more horrifying. But the consequences of the action are more of the same.
More cops, more surveillance, more conspiracy theories, more terror.
if it starts happening regularly
It will never happen regularly enough to undermine the profit motive. Not if it’s just random Lone Wolf vigilantes who binge watched Demolition Ranch videos and got delusions of grandeur.
What I meant is that he represents a physically dangerous reaction to the kind of oppressive policies they and their ilk support. Right or wrong, people are losing patience with the billionaires and their lickspittles. Maybe the Heritage Foundation with their culture war BS won’t be so much of a target, but the economic interests they represent are obviously no longer able to imagine that they can get away with their thievery without some possibility of a violent reaction.
Can you smell the freedom?
In case anyone doesn’t know, you can download all of Wikipedia of you have 120GB of space. You can download a whole bunch of wikis straight off Kiwix.
I refuse to let the fascists control knowledge
I refuse to let the fascists control knowledge
Wikipedia isn’t just useful as a repository of information. Its useful because editors are constantly adding and refining the information within. Downloading a singular instance of the site is like owning an Encyclopedia. Diminished utility year-by-year.
True, but it depends who’s going the refining. If they start censoring or changing facts, then the static instance on your hard drive has huge value.
Thanks for this PSA, it’s stunning how we used to have encyclopedias in our studies but now no one collects the physical offline copies (which includes an archive of Wikipedia)
no one collects the physical offline copies
I’ve still got my dad’s 1957 encyclopedia in a storage closet somewhere. Another one from 1981 is floating around somewhere. But they take up enormous amounts of space and don’t do a great job of self-updating, nevermind searching or re-indexing.
Fortunately they don’t on Wikipedia
Is that the medialess version or with images?
I think at 120GB that is the with media version. You can also get a medialess version as well. There’s a wiki for how to download wikipedia if you want more info:
120GB is with photos and not video.
Bless
[…] you can find the data here: https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/kiwix/zim/wikipedia/
The latest (January 2024) total dump for Wikipedia (English) is:
wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2024-01.zim…but there’s other languages and sizes available as well.
Repost of: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12154129
Why thank you!
So how do these idiots plan to solve the fact that many editors are not in fact based in the US. Just move edition these articles to any other country?
The Heritage Foundation doesn’t care if the people they dox are Americans or not. They care not for borders when it gets in the way of their agenda.
Well. I think they can dox someone editing out of Pajala in Sweden, Drenas in Kosovo, Bifuka in Japan or Bella Cola in Canada and it will mean fuck all. Perhaps Cletus in Bumfuck North Carolina will seethe but i will mean nothing
In June, a panel of Wikipedia editors declared the Anti-Defamation League a “generally unreliable” source of information about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
And there was an outcry this fall among some Jewish scholars and pro-Israel activists over edits to Wikipedia’s entry for Zionism to add references to “colonization.”
So basically the usual zionist hostility towards logical conclusions based on mountains of credible evidence. Except taken to 11.
roadmap for fighting antisemitism and anti-Zionism
Extremely unfun fact: Zionism and the aggressively counterfactual defense of it is the number one cause of ACTUAL antisemitism in the world.
Some people who have never been bigoted before start at justified outrage at the atrocities committed by the fascist apartheid regime in charge of Israel and go down rabbit holes conflating Israel and all Jewish people, leading to some of the most disgusting conspiracy theories in existence.
Do you have a source about the Zionism thing? Because antisemitism was alive and well for most of western history. And for me personally seeing Israel starve a bunch of children in Gaza make me hate Israel / IDF, not the Jewish baker down the street.
antisemitism was alive and well for most of western history
So was anti-Teutonism and anti-Sinoism and anti-Americanism for that matter. I’m not sure you can absolve the Jewish state of its crimes by pointing to a rival clan of bigots.
seeing Israel starve a bunch of children in Gaza make me hate Israel / IDF, not the Jewish baker down the street.
Part of the problem with Zionism (and other ultra-nationalist movements), is how it deliberately works to draw sharp lines between people globally in order to justify horrifying colonial violence locally. I’ve got Jewish neighbors and family who are very weird on Israel specifically, because they’ve considered a Jewish State a source of pride for so much of their lives. You can’t really address the Gaza Genocide without getting an earful about how Palestinians started it and Arabs deserve it.
In the same way, seeing my state government persecute trans people and black/hispanic minorities can’t mentally be divorced from a Texas baker down the street waving a little Trump flag.
Well, the Trump flag changes a lot. It’s like the Jewish baker having “death to Arabs” on his window. But then your feelings are not about race or ethnicity, it’s about the beliefs that person have.
It’s like the Jewish baker having “death to Arabs” on his window.
Given the state of Israeli foreign policy, it’s not hard to read their flag that way.
But then your feelings are not about race or ethnicity, it’s about the beliefs that person have.
Beliefs informed by the family race and ethnicity
So… racism?
I don’t know if it’s the number one cause, but it has definitely caused me to have some antisemitic thoughts before I caught myself doing it and started making a serious mental effort to always distinguish between Zionism, Judaism, and Jewish ethnicity. Nothing else has ever caused me to give credence to racist ideas.
It also seems pretty obvious to me that it contributes to antisemitism when monsters like Netanyahu are allowed to get away with claiming they represent all Jews.
Do you have a source about the Zionism thing?
gestures vaguely at every Zionist conflating Israel with all Jewish people
You can’t just pretend that committing a laundry list of atrocities is acceptable while calling yourself representative of a wider group of people without some of the less discerning and/or more conspiracy-minded people taking you at your word and resenting the people as a whole.
Not saying that antisemitism is in any way acceptable, of course, but just like brutal oppression breeds terrorism, committing or defending things that should never be accepted while saying that you represent all of Jewdom is going to teach some people the wrong lessons.
Because antisemitism was alive and well for most of western history
Yes, and it has traditionally been mostly caused by the othering of Jewish people by conservative clergy or politicians trying to keep their “flock” in check, but that’s not the main cause anymore.
While the “traditional” causes still exist, in a world where most people can read about and watch atrocities on TV, the Hasbara talking points meant to mollify and deceive the masses are no longer working, so instead of convincing people that the atrocities are necessary for Jewish people to be safe, some people are being convinced of another lie: that the atrocities are the kind every Jewish person would do if given the chance
And for me personally seeing Israel starve a bunch of children in Gaza make me hate Israel / IDF, not the Jewish baker down the street.
Same here, but not everyone is able and willing to make that distinction while the war criminals themselves and their most ardent defenders keep insisting that there’s no difference.
Oh, Antisemitism is still used for that.
Especially from the christian and muslim right.
The thing is, gesturing vaguely at something we thing is obvious, is not really a source. Even 1+1=2 has to be proven. I suspect that Zionism is just used as a pretext to be antisemitic by people who were going to anyways. But I also don’t have any data to back it up.
Even 1+1=2 has to be proven.
Disclaimer: This is off-topic.
How do you prove this? Through definitions? An appeal to authority is not valid proof.
This line of reasoning reminds me of when people were saying the “square root of 2 isn’t 1 because mathematical scholars say so”…No, it’s by definition not one. Count one thing one time, how many things have you counted? One.
I don’t need a source or an authority for that nor for 1+1=2. I need to understand the basic definitions and concepts.
The proof is something like 300+ pages long and they needed to invent a few new branches of mathematics to reach the end, because it’s strictly not based on appeal to authority. I didn’t even try to understand it, but it’s a cool piece of trivia.
It’s a basic property of counting though, right?
I mean I understand that there are academic standards of proof, but the idea that those are necessary for casual conversations about easily understood concepts is pretty ridiculous.
It seems like one of those bojack memes where the drooling person at the one end and the Jedi at the other end would both say just count a couple of rocks and the nerd in between would be saying write a 300-page proof.
Things like basic property of counting are not mathematical strict definitions.
Relying on “dude, it’s obvious” doesn’t work in science, you need to prove things. Otherwise you’d think a feather and a cannonball always fall a different speeds, for instance.
There is no “source” for the claim that zionism drives anti-semitism. It’s outside the realm of objective science. But it seems pretty obvious that a bunch of genocidal wackos claiming to represent judaism is bad for jews.
It is often used by antisemites to disguise their antisemitism as valid criticism of zionism.
That validity ends, once you attack any Jew for their Jewishness, attribute any wrongdoing of Jews to their Jewishness or straight up insult other people as “Jews”.
That’s an option article, same as we are writing here. There could be statistics relating anti-semitic attacks to Israels activity, for instance. Claiming something is outside of objective science is a very lazy cope-out.
The thing is, gesturing vaguely at something (…) obvious, is not really a source
Yeah, it’s not like there’s a lot of people honestly and precisely detailing how they developed their bigoted attitudes. That doesn’t mean that you can’t reason your way to a logical conclusion, though.
This is a place where you need data, not reasoning to a plausible conclusion.
No, this (ascertaining the underlying causes of bigotry) is a place where definitive data by definition can’t exist and thus logically reaching the most probable conclusion based on what IS known must take its place.
I’m trying to assume that your demands for the impossible are in good faith, but it’s getting difficult .
As I said before, claiming data can’t exist is a lazy cope-out. I also presented an example of data that could work: antisemitic attacks per day vs activity of Israel in Gaza, plotted over time. Just an example, I’m no sociologist.
Expect the accusations of antisemitism to extend to pedophilia, anti-white racism, and communism soon.
You mean like they haven’t already? I’ve been hearing it for at least a few years now unfortunately.
Militant zionism is also great at creating terrorists
Absolutely!
All kinds of violent suppression is, but the sheer scale, audacity and inhumanity as well as the complicity of most of the richest and most powerful countries in the world makes for an especially potent recipe for the kind of trauma and feelings of helplessness that leads to the extreme radicalization of oppressed people
I have found myself wondering if Israel’s actions are causing Hamas to grow faster than they can kill its members. Where’s the saying come from, “one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter”? Were my family and friends being killed just for existing, with the sole excuse being that there might possibly have been terrorists in the area maybe, I can’t say I’d be content to sit idly by to watch others suffer the same. And I suspect I’m not alone in that.
It absolutely is creating more terrorists than they kill members of Hamas.
But, also, Hamas is the government. Being Hamas doesn’t mean you’re military. There’s loads of people who work for Hamas that are not terrorists, just like there’s loads of people working for the US government who are not terrorists. Hamas includes social workers, doctors, sanitation workers, etc
Both through direct recruitment and by radicalizing their enemies.
Counterpoint. It’s the latest entry point to indoctrinate new bigots and the millionth scapegoating.
Made a note to donate on payday.
I always give to Wikipedia. I’m poor as shit, but anytime I see that banner they gonna get some money.
NOTHING has been as useful for me in the last 20 years. I have learned so much I’ve forgotten over half of it.
I’m a hillbilly who has no education past around the 5th grade. It has been invaluable to me. I wouldn’t be who I am without it. Honestly without the internet as a whole, but especially Wikipedia.
I have learned so much I’ve forgotten over half of it.
The crux is, i have learned it, told myself “Oh yeah, that’s on Wikipedia” and only remember where to find what information. I’m utterly useless without Wikipedia, as many family quiz losses around Christmas turned out… Hell, even sources i use for discussions on the internet i get often from Wikipedia articles, they sometimes link the actual studies…my google foo is pretty good, but some things i’m simply unable to find, except in the Wikipedia source lists…
I feel like that thing has now become too large to be considered a “banner.” Its approaching AIDS quilt dimensions.
I’m not donating this time, but only because I just made a big donation in response to Elmo talking shit about Wikipedia.
What’s that, evidence of intent to commit terrorism?
Pretty sure just saying it is terrorism.
Try saying youll “doxx and target” UHC C suite and see how that goes. Theyll shove you in the same spot as luigi and name a hotline after you
There’s a Luigi hotline?
I meant the hotline they tried to hurry in for CEOs to call after what Luigi did. Because apparently thats ehat society’a funds should focus on.
So there’s a CEO hotline now?
It’s ideal for when you want to have hot, steamy conversations about all your deepest, darkest desires. Like popping CEOs, overthrowing the oligarchy, and making enough money to afford all your basic human needs.
This could be done in literally like 50 minutes.
But I’m Trump’s America, that’s OK, as long as you’re a Nazi.
Bring out your punchin’ fists. It’s time for a good ol’ fashioned fash bash.
The only good nazi is a dead nazi.
Perhaps the ‘heritage foundation’ needs some of it’s own medicine. These people are domestic terrorists who are traitors to their country.
We need another brave group like that furry hacker group that pissed them off so much that they flew off the handle. Except I vote the group that does it doesn’t make the same mistake as the last one by contacting them afterwards.
I mean… What’s stopping us, random Lemmy users, from making SiegedSec 2.0? If you want something done right, do it yourself.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I wouldn’t have a clue what to do. I’ve never done actual hacking before outside of once in a learning lab on a virtual machine where I sent a social engineered email to a controlled email address. But that’s not really hacking, let alone gonna be any use to a SiegedSec 2.0, now is it?
First I’ve heard about that. Do you have a link for more details?
https://cyberscoop.com/hackvists-release-two-gigabytes-of-heritage-foundation-data/
I only remember it because I saw it plenty of times being posted here when it was first happening, though K don’t know what sources everyone else linked.
