“Non-human biologics” could mean anything from pollen in the air to aerosolized chimpanzee to Gragnak from the planet Xeltav’s big clawtoe.

Wake me up when we get something more than wishful thinking, conspiracy nonsense, and credulous reports.

What are they trying to distract us from today?

We’re dying from climate change, and people are more concerned with ALF.

“The story aligns with a lot of similar stories that have played out, going back to the 1980s and 1970s, that together allege that the US government has kept an incredible secret, the literal most extraordinary secret that mankind could have, for not just weeks or months, but years and decades, with no meaningful leak or documentary evidence to ever come forward,” Graff previously told the Guardian.

“I think when you look at the government’s ability to keep secret other really important secrets, there’s a lot of reason to doubt the capability of the government to do that.”

That’s it for me. If aliens have visited Earth, and I’m not completely skeptical about that, but if they did I highly doubt the government would have the ability to hide it, let alone a decades long reverse engineering program.

The hearing was actually incredible and I encourage everyone to actually watch the whole 2.5 hr recording, and come up with their own opinion after.

It is an incredible moment in time, I can’t stress how big of a deal that members of the government are openly and seriously listening to these people, agreeing with them and believing them, and saying that they too, are tired of being kept in the dark by the rest of the government.

They also agree the negative stigma against the topic should be addressed as well as instating a safe reporting system too.

The entire time the tone was very serious. I seriously challenge anyone to watch it and say their isn’t at least some air of credibility to it, if you’re a skeptic.

These men mention they risked their military careers by reporting all of this info- that’s how serious and important it is.

This shouldn’t be something you just laugh at and dismiss.

I forgot to mention the whole thing was (mostly) bipartisan…. This never fucking happens, Congress can’t even agree on what lunch to order without it turning into dems vs republicans.

With all that he’s putting on the line, David Grusch appears to believe what he’s saying. But is it possible the documents David Grusch came across were fabricated? Would the US government have any incentive to fabricate these records and keep them highly classified?

Uh huh.

If you just want the dry version of all this, there is of course a wikipedia page for that hearing.

Hearings

Rep. André Carson (D-IN), chairman of the subcommittee, opened the hearing. He raised the concern that UAPs posed a potential threat to national security and should be treated as such, and that the “stigma associated with UAPs has gotten in the way of good intelligence analysis.” He criticized the Pentagon for failing to name a director to head the newly established Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group and for failing to provide any updates. Carson pledged to "bring the organization out of the shadows.”[6]

The hearings included testimony from Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security Ronald S. Moultrie, the Pentagon’s top intelligence official, and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray. Bray stated that the number of “frequent and continuing” reported sightings had grown to about 400 since last year’s mandated report.[7][8][9] He cast out the notion that the UFOs had extraterrestrial origins, testifying that no organic/inorganic material or unexplainable wreckage indicated so.[6][10] Bray added that there had been no attempts at communication with the objects, and that despite at least 11 “near-misses”, no collisions between unidentified aircraft and U.S. aircraft had been reported so far.[11][12]

It was revealed that other countries had similar reports on UFOs, and that a number of them communicated with U.S. intelligence agencies, although Moultrie told lawmakers that they did want “potential adversaries to know exactly what we see or understand.”[6] He also mentioned the need for cooperation with the Federal Aviation Administration as well as other government agencies.[9] Moultrie stated that most UFOs could be identified through “rigorous” analysis and investigation, but pointed out a number of incidents that defied explanation, such as a 2004 sighting where aircraft carrier pilots in the Pacific came across a hovering unidentified object that appeared to have rapidly descended tens of thousands of feet.[7][13][14]

Lawmakers were shown declassified images and footage of UFOs, including a video of a UFO observed by a Navy fighter-jet pilot in 2021, a “spherical object” that “quickly passes by the cockpit of the aircraft.” Another video captured triangular objects (speculated to be drones) floating off the coast as seen through night-vision goggles.[6][7][15]

A number of lawmakers, including Rick Crawford (R-AR), expressed concerns about potential Russian or Chinese hypersonic weapons programs.[6][16] He warned that a failure to identify such threats was “tantamount to intelligence failure that we certainly want to avoid”.[16]

The standardization of the civilian reporting process was also discussed, as the majority of reports in the military’s database are from military officers.

The public portion of the hearing, held in the morning and lasting less than 90 minutes, was followed by private classified session in the afternoon.[16][6]

pretty mild for people saying at some point there was hard evidence dropped ufo means extraterrestrials. Sounds more like unidentifiable flying objects encounters report. No green man here.

My personal theory is extra-terrestrial aliens came to earth - and noped the fuck out of here immediately.

That’s why we don’t see these UFOs anymore

Well, I posted a fun write up here in the comments about why this is cool and what we should really expect from this, ince a lot of people are uncertain about anything going on here being important or even new. Spent like an hour and a half on it, since I’ve been following this topic closely for my own entertainment for a while now. Thanks for apparently losing it in transit, kbin.

What’s new:

The military released videos some years back it claims are of unknown technology, and are doubling down that the videos are real. The most substantial of these are the GIMBAL video from the Nimitz Incident (Fravor’s testimony) and the Mosul orb (which has no attached testimony).

Years after the videos were released, David Grusch and the others are using a new whistleblower hotline that was started very recently. Grusch claims that he’s been waiting in the wings for years for just this opportunity, as he has learned of heinous crimes being committed against the American people.

Matt Gaetz, putting politics cautiously aside, just stated on official record that he directly saw evidence of UAPs that has been hidden by the government. This means people that actually have something to lose are coming forward and making extraordinary claims.

The truth:

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all whistleblowers involved readily admit they only have hearsay to bring to the table. None of them witnessed any real evidence first-hand in a substantial fashion, they mostly are sharing stories they were told by supposed first-hand witnesses. Grusch claims he knows a number of specific names and places, but he’s not telling the public and has further stated he will lie to the public to protect himself. Nothing else has been confirmed, and all videos and images released to the public are blurry and inconclusive.

What we can hope for:

Let’s see them aliens already.

What we should hope for:

Investigations into the trillions of dollars “lost” by the Pentagon. Some accountability would be fantastic.

What we will probably get:

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