People need to get the fuck off twitter.
Meanwhile, everybody will continue to refuse to leave the platform, further showing Elon that there is no price too high for people.
JUST. LEAVE. TWITTER.
I’ve practically been groveling begging my girlfriend to switch.
Its not that bad just ignore the ads
Yeah I don’t go in replies because it’s always bots
There’s still some things on there
She didn’t really catch onto mastodon, discoverability is the problem imo. May try getting her onto bluesky even though it wouldn’t be my pick. Some people just like whatever they currently have more than change - which maybe not being able to block like EVERY OTHER media platform may be a big enough change.
Basically nothing I follow is on anything else because they need the numbers. The few people that are just copy their twitter posts and never actually engage.
Problem is people have gotten used to centralized platforms
I use to keep in contact with my metal homies. That’s about it.
If you ever feel like trying Mastodon, https://metalhead.club is the instance you’re looking for
Using a corporate controlled advertising platform sounds like the least metal thing you can do.
A lot of people have professional reasons to be on Twitter. If you’re trying to promote a business you need to be where the people are and none of the alternatives have anywhere near Twitter’s size.
But …the porn…
By all means, keep posting and perusing porn on the platform, when that and Elon will be all that’s left on Twitter, it’ll be ok.
Pretty sure he’s doing this simply because he doesn’t like how many people have blocked him personally
Taylor Swift blocked him and he can’t have that
He’s grumpy that she won’t see any additional jokes he makes about impregnating her
Remember to contact your political representative and express your concerns on any public organization account having an account on twitter. Also contact any journali of a media you use to read/watch and express the same concern.
Once politics and journalists get out of twitter is game over.
Sacre bleu! It’s almost like the free speech warrior does not know that the other aspect of free speech besides speaking freely is being able to choose whom to listen to! Does he think free speech means being forced to listen to specific people speak?
Surprised. Pikachu. Face.
The ones who are most vulnerable to this change are the ones who especially should’ve left this platform already. I’m sorry, but they’re not being forced to use it, and everyone should leave it. I don’t have much sympathy or care about wanting to make an alt-right social media platform safer, I want it to crash and burn.
A lot of them are in-denial. I’ve seen them argue that Twitter isn’t a Nazi platform and is used by normal people. Serves them right I guess, they were told it was a problem and they didn’t want to listen.
The best way to cure network effect is with pain and suffering, and eventual forced deprivation (when the service shuts down).
Nice username thats gonna be worth big money some day
Thx I’ll sell you it as an nft
“BuT eVeRyOnE iS oN tWitTeR”
And will continue to be so long as everyone keeps showing Elon there is NOTHING he can do, say, or allow that will get people to leave.
Why the fuck does elon want to remove the block button on twitter like WHY???
So people can’t block him, I imagine.
That was the one action I took on Twitter after creating an account before my account got banned.
I needed to create an account to check a local source for updates. So I did. I also decided to look around on Twitter to see what I was “missing”. Saw a bunch of Musk stuff and instantly knew I didn’t want to see any of it. So I blocked him.
In a few weeks, when I clicked a Twitter link, it said my account had been banned for suspicious activity. It had a secure password and this was its second log-in ever (no posts, comments, reactions, etc).
Pretty sure you already can’t block him specifically, I’m not on Xitter but have heard from several people this is the case.
Nah you can still block him
A friend has told me you can block Elon but his tweets still appear on your timeline as if you haven’t. He still uses Twitter and the only way he manages it is by blocking every blue check. He has 28,000 blocked accounts now…
I just deleted the app from my own phone and locked my account, I moved my microblogging activity to Mastodon, and also using Lemmy more and more.
So he can tell women how he will give them babies or horses.
Otherwise how the bullies can continue to belittle the victim behind their backs?
Switching to throwaway accounts is boring
Reminder: if you still have an account with that fucko’s service-
You support everthing he does.
I’ve kept my account because it’s a sought after username. Deleting it would allow some grifter to take it over. It also predates both Elmo’s and the original Twitter accounts.
I’ve not posted anything under it since the third party apps were blocked.
Reminder: if you purchase gas from BP, you support anything they’ve ever done.
Reminder: if you purchase a smart phone, you support child labor.
I don’t believe I’m entertaining this ridiculous comparison, but….
We NEED gasoline. We NEED telecommunications. You don’t NEED to tweet dumb shit about your breakfast or keep up with sports scores.
You’re here to defend X, therefore you’re defending Elon. That’s how it works. Don’t like it, maybe don’t speak up for him next time.
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I’m so sorry that People hurt you that much on Lemmy. Maybe this place is a bit too “rough” for you but you need to learn that the Internet is no safe space for you. If you feel so triggered maybe you should take longer breaks between using it and see how much you can actually stomach it at once. It’s totally okay. No one will judge you, some people can deal better with the “stress” the Internet brings us and some people need to take breaks.
If you ever need more help: https://mentalhealthhotline.org/anxiety-hotline/
Take care of yourself and learn what your Body is teaching you!
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You seem pretty obviously upset.
Ah, yes, I’m having a conversation with someone with an opposing viewpoint, so clearly I’m upset. Ya caught me.
Is this some odd debate tactic people use here? Tell people they’re upset in the hope it gets them upset? Is emotional and mental stability that unstable on Lemmy? Never thought I’d pine for the reddit days.
you think people don’t need smartphones? do you not have a job?
You may need gasoline, but you don’t need BP’s gasoline. By choosing to buy BP’s gasoline, you support everything BP has ever done. Don’t want to support them, buy different gasoline.
FWIW, I’m not sure if I have a Xitter account or not. I did at one point. Definitely don’t remember a password, and I probably used a former email account that I can no longer access either, so no way of recovering it if it still exists. I have a severe lack of fucks to give about it.
But, I am pro-pedantry, and your argument kinda sucked.
So you popped in to say that you essentially have nothing to say by supporting a shit tier false equivalence argument. Good for you!
I never buy gas at BP or Exxon. Ever. Smart phone though? That’s required for my job.
Reminder: if you have american citizenship, all support everything those fucko’s do
People aren’t born on Twitter.
I’m keeping it just long enough to harass his ass. I’ll be all over him like Joe Biden on an ice cream cone, or Elon Musk on Trumps dick.
I promise you: you’re not harassing him. You ARE however, supporting him by having an account.
As much as I despise Musk and Twitter and hope that both die a painful death, what is actually proposed here is honestly a change for the better: It’s not about preventing people from blocking users, it’s about blocked users being able to see public posts, which they could also see by just logging out. This is being honest about what a block does and avoids giving people a wrong sense of privacy that they simply don’t have on the platform. From what I’ve heard there is a possibility to post for followers-only which in combination with requiring approval to follow and that isn’t going away here either…
Twitter massively reduced visibility for logged-out users, so just logging out doesn’t help, you have to log into a different account. This additional fraction reduces the amount of harassment a lot. Not sure that being “more honest” is worth the price, especially when an info box could achieve the same without making harassment easier.
Twitter massively reduced visibility for logged-out users,
I know, but it still didn’t fully remove it.
Not sure that being “more honest” is worth the price
The thing is that there really is no price, nor was there ever one. Your suggestion that you think there is demonstrates that the way blocking worked gave people dangerously wrong ideas. It’s about being clear to people what they can and cannot expect. Anything else is ACTUALLY dangerous.
I know, but it still didn’t fully remove it.
Sure, but it doesn’t have to be fully removed to have an effect.
The thing is that there really is no price, nor was there ever one. Your suggestion that you think there is demonstrates that the way blocking worked gave people dangerously wrong ideas.
Sorry, but you don’t get to redefine how humans work. There is a price, because friction reduces the likelihood of people following through. Removing that friction increases the likelihood of people following through. You might not want to believe this to be the case, but please read studies on the topic - it’s just how humans work. You don’t get to dismiss negative effects because you don’t believe in them.
The argument here is literally about stalkers. Not about random uninterested people that don’t care.
No, it’s not just about stalkers, it’s about harassment in general. But even if it were, even stalkers are still people and don’t work fundamentally different.
Feel free to show any research proving me wrong, but unless you find any, the reasonable position is “humans work the same on this topic as on others”.
Wearing a seatbelt in a moving vehicle does not magically prevent all deaths upon an accident. Do you recommend we should stop wearing seatbelts?
If there are measures in place that reduce the danger of something happening, it’s not wise to remove them just because they’re not 100% effective.
I’m not advocating against a seatbelt, I’m advocating against not wearing it, “because I am confident that I can hold on to something in case of a collision” or similar stupid reasons. Expecting that blocking does anything to hide public posts that you can simply open in another browser (or in the same browser in private browsing mode) is not a seatbelt, it is the equivalent of a slightly stronger handle on top of the car window that is being advertized as a feature to protect you in case of an accident.
This change first and foremost makes it clear that that handle does nothing meaningful and that you should wear an actual seatbelt (follower-only posts, ideally with restricted followers) instead, if you are worried about a collision. Twitter is a public forum. You can’t tell people to leave you alone, shout with a megaphone across the marketplace and then be annoyed when they hear you. If you don’t want them to hear you, don’t use a megaphone.
Nah, bullshit. This is 100% Musk’s fragile ego getting upset that people blocked him. He wants to be able to force his and his evil friends’ opinions into the faces of people who don’t want to see it.
That’s the opposite of what’s happening. In this case, Musk would have blocked you, and you would want to see his posts (for some reason). You could normally see a user who’s blocked your posts by just opening the thread in an incognito tab to view as a logged out user. This just cuts out that step and lets you see the user’s posts without doing that.
Please read again what he changed and then try to figure out why your rationale is clearly not what this is about.
I’m pretty sure both the App Store and the Google Play Store both require social media apps to have a block feature. Will be interesting to see what happens if he goes through with this.
Absolutely nothing. Rules on those stores are only for the little guys
He backed down when Brazil blocked him. If Apple and Google decided to threaten to delist Twitter, he’ll back down.
I thought Twitter was once forced but a court to enable blocking for all users against all users. Isn’t this why we are able to block advertisers?
i seem to remember something similar. and blocking advertisers seems like it should be common law but i guess chrome killing adblockers takes predesence.
Bet both my ovaries he just wants to stop using apt to look at all the people who blocked him
He could simply make his account invulnerable to it if that was his goal, no there’s a deeper reason why he’s making the change. Likely because he realizes too many people are blocking the alt-right users part of his paying simp army.
you putting an awful lot of faith into the turd in cans intelligence
That’s a good point. He’s probably not smart enough to figure that out.
The billionaire this week posted his hoped-for change that “the block function will block that account from engaging with, but not block seeing, a public post”.
If I understand the change aright, that’s an excellent move in my book.
What it sounds like Twitter is doing now is how Reddit used to work. When you ignore a user, you won’t see their responses, but other users can.
Then Reddit changed it to “blocked user cannot respond”, which people on Reddit promptly started abusing to, in heated arguments, make a comment and then promptly block the other person, so that it looked like they weren’t responding. You wound up with people commenting all over a thread with stuff like “this user blocked me, but here’s my response to this other comment”. Was one of the several major moves that Reddit made that I think were in error and made me less happy with the site.
Lemmy works the same way Reddit originally did as well; that’s how I’d want social media to generally work.
EDIT: It might also be that this is only a partial move in that direction, so that a block prevents a user from responding but not seeing a post. If so, that’d be an improvement, I think, but not as far as I’d like things to change.
There’s a huge difference between what a site like Reddit is used for and how Twitter is often used for. Reddit is all about discussion, so blocking discussion is bad (as you pointed out). Twitter is used a little for discussion (their character limit doesn’t really allow much discussion), but it’s mostly used for informing the world about whatever you are doing or care about. Famous people and companies use it for advertising, and normal people use it for letting people know what’s going on in their world. Stalkers can use this information to figure out where people are in the world. Being able to COMPLETELY block a stalker is a good thing. Now people with stalkers will once again be afraid to openly say what they are doing in the world.
But there’s nothing to stop a stalker just making another account to follow you if they really want to. I dont see blocking doing much good there as there is no such thing as being able to stop your public posts being viewed, because they’re public.
I still think its a bad idea to remove blocking just becuase people want to remove things they dont want to see (like right wing billionaire arseholes) but I dont think giving people a false sense of security is a good reason against it.
I dont see blocking doing much good there as there is no such thing as being able to stop your public posts being viewed, because they’re public.
My thoughts as well. Someone dedicated to harassing you isn’t going to give up when they get blocked. They’ll just make another account and do it again, but now with the knowledge of what gets under your skin.
Everthing he does is a win for them.