If you think about productivity, you can’t help but think that having the default state of your computer being an image with a few icons on it is less than stellar. For opening files, it will never be tidy enough to give you access to all you need, you need a launcher or a folder structure, meaning the desktop is bad at this. For opening apps, having visual shortcuts on the desktop is a duplicate of whatever panel or launcher you have.

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    Within the first minute just entirely rips off LTT.

    I gave up when this “task based file” workflow thing came up.

    create a “file” add some text. (notepad). Want to add an image? You can! Now its a formatted document (word, writer etc). Want to present it? You press present and now its … a presentation? (powerpoint etc)

    How the hell could this ever work? All of these apps (under the hood) would need to handle all these wildly different file formats whenever you suddenly want to change what you’re doing. It would require the OS to basically pass everything around instead, and all apps to be able to understand any potential file format that could ever exist, in case the “incoming” file change (notepad to word, txt to docx) is wildly different.

    And what about files that have entirely unrelated tasks? I have a video saved through the “task based workflow above” which my final output is a playing video (so in vlc under the hood). But I don’t want to watch it, I want to edit it.

    Am I now going to open the file and choose an app, or open an app and choose a file? How do I tell the computer what “task” I want, without telling it both the file and the app.

    In this task based workflow it seems to imply there can only ever be one app under the hood. What if I present internally on teams and externally on zoom?

    What if I want to edit a video and watch a different video? Or edit the video in one of many different editors, all of which “edit video” but do it different ways and have different uses?

    A task based workflow as described would still need to start from either a file or an app. Its all well and good having a “new file” button which then magically takes me to whatever thing I need to modify that file, but as soon as more than one app exists to do similar tasks, this flow entirely breaks unless you start to add a list of tasks with slightly different names. And youre back to the original problem statement.

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      I also think the suggestions in this videos are shitty and impractical.

      He’s dreaming about something that could not be implemented. And even if implemented, is just cluncky and unusable.

      I just ignored this video. And actually, most of his videos I’m ignoring as well.

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      Valid criticisms. I don’t watch LTT (Linux Tech Talk?), so do you have a link to a video?

      IMO, it probably needs more thought and he should work with a UX + UI designer to come up with something that fits his flow. After developing a good uh… UX language? design language? maybe others might find it intriguing enough to have a stab at implementing it.

      Anti Commercial-AI license

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        LTT is Linus Tech Tips. It’s more of an entertainment channel with technology flavor. They’re pretty terrible when it comes to actual technological understanding.

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        The entire gimmick of a joke leading into the sponsor. The literal phrasing “… like this segue to our sponsor”

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    Kind of surprised this is getting so much criticism. It’s a thought experiment, not a call for a fundamental change to all PC UX. My only real argument against the idea is that it’s framed as being “for efficiency”. If you want efficiency above all else you would just go full command line.

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      There are valid criticisms, but I do think it’s good thought experiment. COSMIC desktop came out, but it’s not doing anything radically new besides writing it in Rust. I haven’t seen a completely new approach for OS interfaces yet but hopefully videos like this can get a conversation started on alternatives.

      Anti Commercial-AI license

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      I haven’t watched, but assuming it’s good I’m guessing it’s idiots viewing the all feed and downvoting anything they’re not personally interested in.

      It doesn’t help that the official Lemmy docs say downvote things you don’t like, which is only good guidance when you have an algorithm you’re training.

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        Fuck I hate self-righteous “downvotes aren’t for things you dislike” shit like this. Pair it with the hypocritical assumption people don’t understand something you admit youhaven’t taken the time understand yourself and you’re nearing peak oblivious internet poster.

        How the hell are you supposed to say you don’t like a post/comment? Can we please stop treating up/down votes like a mandatory tip? So someone posted something, if it’s shit it gets downvotes if it’s not it doesn’t. You don’t automatically deserve an upvote just because you posyed something. Fuck right off with that.

        As an aside, the desktop paradigm has been solid for decades for a reason. Clickbait “we should change things for the sake of change” shit like this absolutely should be downvoted as the meaningless algorithm baiting drivel it is.

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          I’m talking about people downvoting from all - if you’re seeing content from some niche or geographic community because you’re viewing all then downvoting something you’re not interested in is a dick move.

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        No, it’s objectively a bad watch with a dumb premise. Read the big comment on here if you want a quick summary for why this is getting shit on. Or watch it yourself and formulate a real opinion instead of just blasphemy.