• bulwark@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Part of the issue for me was the audio is mixed so that you can barely hear the dialogue.

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      8 months ago

      I watched in on a plane and didn’t have the audio issue I’ve heard everyone talk about.

      I did however have the issue of not understanding the flick.

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        8 months ago

        Optimized for peak surround sound, allegedly. I have a $5000 system and it still sounds like shit. I can understand it, but it’s shit nonetheless.

        Snobby ≠ good, methinks.

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      It’s frankly amazing that it managed to make it to release. Who the fuck thought the mix was acceptable? Scene 1 I had no clue what was happening because I couldn’t hear! Ridiculous.

      • synae[he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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        8 months ago

        Who the fuck thought the mix was acceptable?

        That would be Christopher Nolan, who I believe is trolling people with his sound design choices at this point

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      8 months ago

      Ugh, I hate that so much! Especially since I sometimes like to fall asleep to a movie I’ve seen many times before and at the end just drift off to the sound of it.

      “Whisper whisper whisper EXPLOSIONS AND YELLING whisper whisper whisper” is probably my least favorite style of sound mixing.

      I like to be able to hear the quiet parts without the loud parts bursting my ear drums, thank you very much!

      • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        You may want to see if your TV has a “night mode” in the audio settings. It’s basically just an audio compander, (combination of compressor and expander.) It expands the quiet parts to be louder, and compresses the loud parts to be quieter. It destroys any kind of dynamics that the director intended, and can cause some difficulty with intelligibility if there’s lots of background noise, (because the noise is getting expanded too!) But for watching things at night, it’s almost a must for dynamic movies.

        Some brands call it headphone mode, because headphone users also frequently complain about dynamic audio too; They turn up to hear the quiet parts, then get their ears blown off during the loud parts.

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          You’re talking about a regular compressor with make up gain. An expander makes the quiet parts even quieter. Compressors compress the dynamic range (which is what you’d want in this scenario), expanders expands the dynamic range.

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        8 months ago

        It was worse around 15 years ago.

        You want to hear things well, though? You’ll need surround sound system and to turn up the center speaker. That’s where they generally mix the voice audio.

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    8 months ago

    Nolan has lost the plot and has become one of those directors who loves the smell of his own farts. Can’t hear my shitty audio? That’s your fault! You didn’t understand my ridiculous plot? That’s your fault! Etc.

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      You didn’t understand my ridiculous plot?

      Why is it such a sin to cater to a different audience to you? If you don’t enjoy his movies then don’t watch them. He’s one of a handful of screenwriters who does complex stuff, there’s an absolute deluge of lighter stuff for the rest of you.

      What would you say to a person who continues to eat fish, even though they hate it and spit it out each time? “Stop eating fish, that’s your fault.”

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        To offer a different perspective, I feel like that argument works more for something you knew you didn’t like from the beginning, but less so for something you used to like. I don’t listen to bands I don’t like but when an artist I do like puts out a string of albums I think suck, it’s hard not to give each one a shot thinking “maybe this one will be better.”

      • Kairos@lemmy.today
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        Christopher Nolan movies are good, they just drag on.

        Oppenheimer was exactly 3 hours and 18 seconds.

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        I tend to disagree with your opinion here. There is a level of objectivity within the realm of taste. I will continue to warn people not to eat pea gravel even if it has a great mouthfeel, for instance.

        The plot is less complex than it appears at face value, because at face value most people are lacking the dialogue that despite Nolan’s protestations has a lot of valuable information within it. Is it great art because he makes you suffer for it? Is The Prestige worse because it’s enjoyable to rewatch?

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          I don’t consider The Prestige to be one of his better works. I like to be left thinking. The Prestige has closure and explanations built in. It’s like the age-old books vs. movies argument: people nearly always say the books are better because books offer the reader agency. It’s not merely because they enjoy looking down their noses at us movie goer mortals - they enjoyed the books more because their preferred interpretation of the words were layered above the literal text.

          I didn’t suffer through Tenet, I was completely immersed - which almost never happens for me. I needed absolutely none of the muffled dialogue to figure out what was going on - and I didn’t watch it in a cinema.

          And if you hated it and suffered through it, that’s fine too. I don’t get why you have a problem with other people enjoying it.

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      Hot take, but the one where Matthew McConaughey gets stuck in a bookshelf was ass too. It started out good, but then got way too up it’s own ass with interdimensional nonsense.

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        I’ll give them that I didn’t see it coming.

        The plot was far too convenient. No spaghetti faction no title forces he could just navigate the tesseract like it was walking across the room.

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    I think Tenet is amazing. Yes, it’s confusing but you’ll manage. If you get the main points, you can enjoy this movie even if you don’t get every detail

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      I understood everything and it was like being forced to gurgle the gunk in the shower drain