• Hildegarde@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Whatever Tiktok is doing, the correct response is to write enforcable laws to prevent ANY company from doing what Tiktok is doing.

    This is bad governance.

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      8 months ago

      That’s what they did. The “correct response” is described in the article as the law 50/50 signed here.

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        Did you read the article? The bill bans tiktok for being foreign. There is nothing in this article that describes a bill that outlaws any practices, conventions, or actions that tiktok has done.

        Being afraid of foreigners for being foreign is not effective regulation.

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          The bill itself says, more or less, “any foreign adversary controlled app is banned. Also, TikTok is a foreign adversary controlled app”. So it doesn’t apply exclusively to TikTok, but it does explicitly include them.

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            Interesting wording there, “foreign adversary controlled”, goes a long way to protect all the companies that are based in tax havens, or controlled by foreign allies, like Saudi Arabia or Israel

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              In a democracy one of the very most important choices that must be made by citizens is what other nations are considered allies or an enemies.

              The funny thing is that US citizens have absolutely zero control over who the government decides is our enemy or ally. That aspect of government is entirely partitioned off as separate from the “democracy”, as if the foreign policy element of our government was itself a foreign nation we have no control over.

              While we are on the topic, fuck the government of Saudi Arabia and Israel, both governments are horrendously violent.

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        I’ve read this comment over 10 times now and I have no idea what the words “the law 50/50 signed here” means, so I can’t be sure I understand the argument you are trying to make. My best guess is that you are using circular logic to suggest that every democratically decided upon decision is always the right decision, which is nonsense because democracy is demonstrably fallible.

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          My point might be a little Covid brain fogged but I’m just pointing out that they did exactly what the guy asked for, if they bothered to click past the title which makes it sound like a targeted “ban Tiktok” law.

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            I am not a guy. I read the entire article before commenting. The law did not do what I asked for. You would know if you read my comment all the way through.

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              I think you’re making assumptions that I can read into what exactly you find wrong with Tiktok. That context is not there in the original comment.

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    High school nerds pay attention. This is how you can make some money and have an excuse to talk to the hot girls…by installing a vpn on their phones so they can still have their tik tok.

    Get one popular girls phone set up and every girl in the school will be hitting you up within a week.

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      Highschooler here, everyone already uses vpn’s to bypass the school firewall to view blocked sites and stuff while on school wifi.

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      And why do you assume everyone including hot girls & popular girls aren’t already capable of installing their own VPNs? Unless of course you mean the high school nerd is going to pay for our VPN service, then come on over!

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        I’m sure some do. I haven’t talked to many high school girls lately.

        If this goes through and this happened when I was in school…that’d be a once in a lifetime opportunity. I’d probably never even think of it then. I’d probably luck into it by telling the rest of the nerd table at lunch, jock overheard, sell him my services, and then word of mouth from there.

        That happening now…probably be the inspiration for the gen Z’s “American Pie”. Or “Superbad”.

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          Are you kidding? There isn’t a phone owning high schooler that doesn’t know how to vpn past their high school’s nanny software. You’re out of touch.

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        aren’t already capable

        Anyone who can read and follow directions is capable

        Most people can’t install a VPN, including hot or cold girls

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      Yes. 🤷

      Nobody wants to be spied on by their perceived enemies. Also, how do you expect us to maintain an appropriate level of hypocrisy if we don’t constantly do hypocritical things?

      I wish we would go after foreign investment, ownership, and political meddling as much as tiktok

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        You have a choice to not use tiktok, in this day and age you don’t really have a choice to not use a phone…

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    8 months ago

    Can the US Lawmakers do anything about the US companies harvesting my data and selling it off… please?

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    U.S. lawmakers can’t force anything on foreign corporations.

    If the bill passes in the House and Senate and is signed into law by President Biden, TikTok would eventually be dropped from app stores in the US if its owner doesn’t sell. It also would lose access to US-based web-hosting services.

    ByteDance would be banned from the U.S. market and lose it’s webhosting on U.S. servers.

    Also, what’s with the “foreign adversary” status of China?

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      Also, what’s with the “foreign adversary” status of China?

      China is attacking us by having a bigger economy

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        Lol yea. They also maintain control over their big corpos and that must be threatening to the 9 corporations in a trench coat that the U.S. calls a government. Still, the world doesn’t need any more adversarial relationships, thank you very much U.S.A.

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    So when do they plan to do something about those domestic businesses trying to manipulate citizens of America?

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      While you’re not wrong about double standards, anything that discourages the use of vapid social media platforms is a win in my book. Use whatever backwards logic you like to make it happen so long as it’s effective.

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    Tik tok is at the root of so many of the social issues we’re facing today. It’s absolutely worse than Facebook, although both need to be addressed.

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        It has a huge hold over our youth today, even folks up to 30. It’s so ubiquitous it’s used as a replacement for Google to find new information including political.

        Problem is it’s absolutely chock full of misinformation and propaganda, which doesn’t just exist on the platform, but is actively pushed on American youth today.

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          It’s full of misinformation and propaganda unlike… You know… All those super reliable objective sources of information that you use?

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            Oh yes VERY unlike those. Anything that can be traced and verified, aren’t read to you by an AI voice or a white person claiming to be an American while trying very hard to suppress an Eastern European or East Asian accent. Another good trait to have would be anything that isn’t verifiably false.

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                Thanks for proving why that platform is just so damned dangerous. The ignorance it inspires is shocking.

    • Same@lemmy.world
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      Sorry but this is giving ‘old man yells at clouds’ energy. How is tiktok any worse than any other social media platform? They’re all echochambers filled with misinformation, it just what happens when you get a lot of people online.

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        That you’re trying to ‘they’re all the same’ bs shows how ignorant many people are on this. They’re not all the same, this one is especially bad and it’s not JUST because it turns you into a fucking retard when you use it.