As with many other subreddits, /r/LegalAdviceUK (which had been dark since the start of the blackout) has been sent a thinly-veiled threat by Reddit.
So they’ve reopened in order to start moving the entire community of 810,000 subscribers to somewhere else.
As you can imagine there are a number of legal professionals who moderate that sub, and they really don’t take kindly to being threatened. They sign off their reopening message with “Fuck /u/Spez and long live John Oliver.” but for the real fun you might want to look up a very famous British legal case they reference, Arkell v Pressdram 1971.
Mirror: https://teddit.adminforge.de/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/14cr5zc/were_back_and_heres_whats_happening/
Awesome! My favorite bit.
Reddit is both stating the protests are having no or minimal effect, whilst at the same time giving away free ad-space to try and keep advertisers, and doing everything it can to force subreddits to re-open. The protestors are both weak, and strong, depending on which argument makes Reddit look less-terrible at any given time.
Huh. That’s the same behaviour Unberto Eco identified with fascist movements in his essay on the subject, Ur-Fascism:
Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as “at the same time too strong and too weak”. On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
That tracks, given that Spez admitted in a recent interview that he’s emulating Elon Musk, champion of the fascist right.
He will never be 0.1% of Elon Musk.
A whiny trust-fund baby who destroyed their company and image through compulsive lying?
They seem equally worthless to me.
Elon Musk isn’t 0.1% of Elon Musk’s (former) public image.
Not to blow anyone’s mind but that’s pretty popular rhetoric on Reddit. Usually when described how right speaks about the left.
Hello, mod here. I am glad you enjoyed our post. It felt appropriate.
Comments were also made to the admins in modmail directly too.
vows to move the entire community off Reddit
Regarding migration, we are obviously open to different options., though perhaps “vowing” is a bit strong.
We have also made https://kbin.social/m/legal/ and https://feddit.uk/c/legaladviceuk (edit: also https://feddit.uk/c/legaladvice)
These are not active yet, and they might never be, but they are options we are looking at.
You do know that you can visit kbin from lemmy, and lemmy from kbin? You don’t have to choose 1 of the 2.
Had no idea what-so-ever :)
I subscribed to the lemmy, it’s here : https://kbin.social/m/legaladviceuk@feddit.uk
With how federation works only new posts from now on will be synchronised, not the history.Christ, we’re gonna have to learn how a whole infrastructure set up works.
@Litigant-In-Person@kbin.social
Yeah, but it’s not that consequential whether you choose a good Lemmy instance or a good Kbin instance.
As a Kbin Stan I prefer this interface, the community is new, without some of the Tankie baggage/ perception of Lemmy.
syncing to other lemmy’s and kbins is not that big of a problem if you’re popular, the first subscriber from an instance will be quick
you mod everything on the main instance.
Lemmy and Kbin are hopefully gonna grow and become better than Reddit has ever been, but they’re not there yet and will be a while before it happens. Specifically, moderation tools in both platforms are reportedly weak at the moment, with a long list of features yet to be implemented. So while i do want the so-called Threadiverse growing, if you’re in a moderating hotspot as your post mentions, you might wanna consider this detail and check if the current tools as present are good enough or not, it might be enough for your needs with what exists already but frankly the subs I’ve modded have been tiny and i don’t have the mental model to tell you if they are already.
I too urge you to not choose Discord for this community for all the reasons stated. Plus it’s the wrong tool for the job, it’s “chat”, not “forums”, it’s by it’s nature impermanent and for ephemeral conversation. Hell, a good old forum will be miles better than Discord for this.
you might wanna consider this detail and check if the current tools as present are good enough or not
Yes, definitely - thats why we have made the spaces but are not migrating over for sure, we’re just exploring options.
Obviously I’m biased and would love to see the subreddit end up in the fediverse, but I’m glad you guys are taking your time and trying to figure out what medium and what platform is the best fit for what y’all do.
If legaladvice is available on feddit.uk, you should try to snag that, too. As a UK-based (or focused – I know servers are often hosted in other countries than the users they serve) instance, the UK is already in the domain. Though, I also get why you might want it right there in the community handle directly, given how which website a given community is hosted on is not always crystal clear in the current site designs.
Just grabbed https://feddit.uk/c/legaladvice too, thanks for the comment/suggestion.
I am cautious of taking ownership too much, as we might not end up using them and wouldn’t want to domain-squat, so in theory I would be open to letting other people take control or decide to moderate them if they felt they were fully invested.
You can always ask the admin to purge the communities if you end up not using them. That will release the name for others to pick up.
For what my 2c are worth, I think legaladviceuk is probably the clearest in terms of discoverability. Despite a community existing on a UK-focused instance, it’s ambiguous as to whether it’s UK specific.
In the end though, it probably doesn’t matter too much, as long as the instance is being actively maintained and is in tune with the values of the community.
Setting up your own instance would actually probably be the best idea but if there’s no one technical around to maintain it I’m not sure it would work out.
Nah, 90% of them will happily stay on Reddit.
Right now yes. But I think they point that things shift a bit will be when 3rd party apps and mod tools are more fleshed out. If Lemmy keeps up with moderate growth until then I think we could see a significant portion of posters moving here. Not saying most, but enough that communities could thrive. We don’t need millions of users.
Moderating on discord seems quite difficult
Modding aside, my experience of Discord is that it’s great if you want to use it like a chatroom, but it sucks if you’re trying to search for information. I wouldn’t think Discord would work well for something like legal advice.
Discord has threaded discussions, but its truly a case of “jack of all trades”. It’s simply not built to manage they kind of content, and does nothing but realtime comms with any utility.
Guilded is better, but still relatively unpolished.
The only real apples:apples option for an exodus from snooville is a vbulletin site or federated boards like kbin.
