Can YOU, a regular citizen, openly declare your desire to commit genocide and still retain YOUR job?
Fortunately, the wealthy aren’t a race of people, so it isn’t considered genocide if I begrudgingly devour each and every one of them for the good of mankind. Checkmate moralists.
Commonly genocide is associated with race in media, but the legal definition is broader in the UN Genocide Convention: “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”. The wealthy can be easily associated with specific national groups. Check the case of Pol-Pot en Cambodia for a rather extreme example.
Ah geez. I might lose my job when I’m done eating. Bummer.
Not if you start with your boss.
The people I work with sure can.
Well yes you can. Plenty of people chanting from the river to the sea are keeping their jobs.
Let me guess, 30,000 dead Palestinian civilians at the hands of the armed wing of one of the most advanced intelligence machines in the Eastern hemisphere is just “defending their right to exist”.
Take a look at the map. There’s one country in the region surrounding by countries whose Jews have been ethnically cleansed. The rest of them were forced to covert during the Arab conquests that swept the land. You’ve got Iran, Hamas and more all openly saying they want to murder the inhabitants of that lone non Arab country so ya, they’re clearly defending their right to exist.
Also interesting that you’re accepting the numbers from the terrorists who started this round of fighting without question. Do you really think that not a single Hamas fighter has been among the dead? There was a Lord in Parliament the other day speaking on the civilian/combatant ratio being around 2.5:1, or about 9k of those dead being militants. Suppose you’re taking Hamas numbers over the UK’s on this cuz it fits your narrative?
He woke up and thought “today, I’m going to be the shitty politician that punk rockers sing about”, and then he did it.
Had to do a double-take, thought this was an onion headline.
The picture even looks like the parody version you’d see in the music video.
Turns out yes, things can get much worse for Palestinians if Republicans win in November.
I’m not from America. I only know Trump and Biden. Are republicans trump side?
Yes
When I hear things like Dearborn MI is voting for Trump, there’s a sick part of me that wants to see what would happen if the Arab community was the reason Trump got into power.
Like, I understand that you’re very angry with the current situation but are you actually going to ruin your life and that of millions of your supposed brothers in the middle east to express that anger? Do people forget what Trump did as soon as he was in office last time?
If both parties are going to genocide Arabs while they’re in charge, the blood is on their hands and no one else’s. Only assholes and morons will blame Arabs in the US for the massacre of Palestinians.
Things can get much better for palestinians if nobody votes for red or blue
Good thing Genocide Joe is doing his best to kill all Palestinians before then.
They won’t win.
What a piece of sh1t he is. Dismissing lives with the ease of a psychopath with power.
You can say “shit,” it’s okay.
But instead they said shONEt
Is that, like, sonet but with flatulism?
It’s a portmanteau of shit cunt, obviously
Shwunt.
Pretty much like every other politician, except that he is open and honest about it, unlike most of his colleagues.
Andy that’s genocide.
Andy says, “darn tootin’ it is!”
This is hate speech and illegal in my country.
It should be illegal in any country.
Sadly, in the U.S., “freedom of speech” has become almost totally meaningless. Our supreme court decided that money is speech, which is why we now have things called political action committees (PACs) which aren’t supposed to work with campaigns *wink wink, nudge nudge* and can raise unlimited funds from anyone anywhere in the world legally. Unsurprisingly, Trump’s PAC has been paying his legal bills.
Freedom of speech in America means the freedom to call for, advocate for, and organize violence against anyone you like so long as they aren’t white and/or Christian.
If you say violence is bad, or call for violence against those Advocating for and organizing violence though - THEN it’s hate speech.
speech should not be illegal, everyone should be free to say what they want. If you don’t like what someone is saying don’t fucking vote for them. Protest against israel are already illegal in many countries, that’s what not having free speech brings you.
Got it. Money should equal speech because it’s illegal to protest against Israel in many countries.
You can tell the press is broken when he isn’t permanently called a “Genocide Enthusiast” or something similar by the press for as long as he lives.
I love all the comments like “Biden isn’t being tough enough on Israel! Biden isn’t stopping the genocide!”
Besides the fact that people are asking Biden to do something that directly hurts US foreign policy interests…
Do they REALLY think that the Republican party is on the side of stopping brown people dying? Biden in office is probably the most gentle response Palestine is going to get for 10/7. Republicans are frothing at the mouth to boost JDAM and Paveway kit sales.
If preventing a genocide is hurting “foreign policy interests”, then those interests are shite.
exactly what i was thinking.
if this is the lesser of two evils, you probably has reached evil long ago.
Yep they keep saying lesser of two evils while the options get more and more evil despite claiming “incremental progress”. Moderates are completely disconnected from reality or they’re just too afraid to actually push for something better.
The problem is with Trump, particularly, there’s good reason to be afraid.
“We want to punish the democrats for supporting Israel, so we are going to let Trump win”
GOP proceeds to double down on oppressive wars, no improvement for Gaza. Further, you get a government full of leaders that, in the wake of losing in 2020, openly pondered ways of just rigging the election so they don’t have to get votes to win anymore. You had laws proposed in GOP states to declare the legislature could pick whatever electors they wanted ignoring their voters. You had people running for non-partisan election administration positions promising they’ll make sure Republicans win, no matter what. They actively tried to send fake electors that particular cycle, even without any legal backing.
So, in at least one scenario, congratulations, you successfully admonished Biden for his misbehavior, and now, we have at least as bad misbehavior, and maybe some unwinding of democracy to make sure we never get to influence foreign policy ever again.
The problem is with Trump, particularly, there’s good reason to be afraid.
I agree. The threat of Trump seems like a bigger risk to me than the risks introduced by stopping the supply of arms to Israel or vowing to veto any attempts to block a rail strike. But apparently moderates and Joe Biden would prefer to avoid those risks and instead gamble they can win the general election anyway. But what do I know? I’m not part of the majority voting bloc so I’m not responsible for what happens.
I’m not part of the majority voting bloc so I’m not responsible for what happens.
I mean, to the extent any voter is “responsible” for what happens, if you abstain from voting or explicitly vote for a candidate you know is going to lose to make a point, then you have some responsibility for the result, and thus it better be a result you reasonably expect to live with. If you think Trump isn’t any worse than Biden, then voting for the candidate you like best, their chances be damned makes sense. If you sincerely think Trump is a risk that can’t be tolerated, then when general election comes around, you unfortunately should probably vote for Biden.
I personally think Trump is too problematic to risk his victory on principle. Any other presidential contest I can recall, sure, punish the mainstream by voting third party, it’s not like any of the presidential candidates were that much worse than the others. If somehow Haley became the republican frontrunner, by all means, I might not prefer her, but I don’t have a dire sense of dread about her. She wouldn’t be a better choice than Biden on Gaza, but at least your vote was probably clearly seen to be one he forfeited because of his stance. It’s just a matter of how important it is to vote against a particular candidate as to whether you have the comfortable option of voting for your favorite versus voting against an unfavored candidate.
I mean, to the extent any voter is “responsible” for what happens, if you abstain from voting or explicitly vote for a candidate you know is going to lose to make a point, then you have some responsibility for the result
The vote of a majority of people in the country will have no impact on the result of the election whatsoever. Most of us don’t live in the sliver of electorally competitive states.
If you live in Georgia, you should be deeply pondering the very real consequences of a protest vote, but this idea that every voter is responsible is just not how our system works.
Quick question, can you explain to me how it wasn’t evil to burn babies in their cribs, rape daughters in front of mothers, and behead fathers in front of sons? Cause I really can’t see it any other way after 10/7.
the world isnt black and white and one evil can’t justify another, even greater evil. its a convenient excuse, but its good to notice oppression has the habit of creating more of the twisted people you speak of.
the world isn’t black and white
Evil
Incredible that this amount of cognitive dissonance can fit into one sentence.
motherfucker is tryna justify genocide dude, thats not a hill to die on.
I hate genocide, like the genocide that Hamas committed on 10/7.
Wahhhhhhh the US should support the people I like!!!
Supporting Israel’s genocide of Palestinians is directly harming the US’ foreign policy interests.
The entire point of Israel’s genocide in the end is to perpetuate war and conflict so rightwing nutjobs like Netanyahu can retain power by killing people and claiming they are keeping people safe instead of doing actual leadership work and passing effective policy to save people.
In that sense Israel’s genocide makes the entire world less safe by empowering strongman leaders like this.
The foreign policy of most on the right is basically “Turn it all to glass.” Which is terrifying.
You’re thinking of ruzzia lmao.
Are you seriously incapable of viewing Biden’s actions outside of a lens related to the upcoming election?
It’s almost as though some people are incapable of holding two thought in their head at the same time: the RNC is absolutely fascist and pro-genocide, and Biden is doing the wrong thing in this specific situation and should be criticized for it. If all criticism of a president must stop, you live in a dictatorship. This one just happens to be a two party dictatorship where one awful party is kept from criticism by the threat of the other being even worse.
Literally everything every politician does is towards their next re-election. Literally everything. It’s ignorant to think otherwise.
Part of representing their constituents is to satisfy the most voters to vote for them in the future. It’s not a hard concept.
This is a total non-sequitur, you don’t seem to understand the conversation you’re involved in and nothing about your other responses suggests there might be an intelligent conversation to be had were it corrected.
Yet you seem unable to debate the point. Hmmm.
How does that even make sense? GOP being worse doesn’t mean that Biden is doing a great job. He’s bloody well FUNDING and ARMING the genocidal IDF. That there is a worse option doesn’t make Biden’s actions in any way “good”.
I immediately stop listening to anyone that is calling the current situation genocide. No better way to tell me that your opinion is worthless than to use words incorrectly.
The UN Convention on Genocide defines it like this:
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
"a) Killing members of the group;
b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
So, point for point, the only one Israel hasn’t done in Gaza is “e”. But to be clear, you don’t have to hit all 5 to be a genocide, just one is enough. Russia is hitting all 5 in Ukraine.
Yes exactly, the slaughter on 10/7 WAS genocide.
A repressed people cannot commit genocide against their repressors.
See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Turner’s_slave_rebellion
Great, so Israel can’t commit genocide against Palestinians due to 80 years of oppression through terrorist attacks?
I’d hardly call what the Palestinians do “oppression”, they aren’t in a position to oppress anyone.
Ah so that’s why you’re a zionists shill, you only listen to israel
Besides the fact that people are asking Biden to do something that directly hurts US foreign policy interests…
Why would enabling the genocide of Palestinians benefit US foreign policy?
Also, isn’t our current beef with Yemen and the 96% drop off in Suez traffic a direct result of Israel’s War in Gaza? Isn’t keeping the Suez open to traffic pursuant to US foreign policy?
Do they REALLY think that the Republican party is on the side of stopping brown people dying?
I think that America is a Fascist Nation enabling the will of some of the most deranged and brutal regimes in human history. Between the Israelis, the Saudis, the Indian Hinduvistas, and the Duterte/Marcos cartel in the Philippians, we’ve got - bare minimum - four Fascist regional governments that we are falling over ourselves to help perpetuate atrocities of nightmarish proportions.
Republicans and Democrats seem to be in alignment in supporting all of these horrifying campaigns of mass slaughter. If this is the future of American politics, our government deserves to fail and I pray that our failed state is wiped from the face of the Earth.
The US does not negotiate with terrorists. The US is not going to abandon it’s interests just because some anti-semitic people don’t like the US supporting Israel. It is directly contrary to the US foreign policy interests because it signals that the US is willing to abandon allies in the face of attack. Imagine if the US had withdrawn support from Israel after 9/11, an attack which was specifically in retaliation for US support of Israel.
The US does not negotiate with terrorists.
Government Negotiations with Terrorists: US Edition
Also:
Negotiating with Terrorists, from the Journal of Police Negotiation, 2001
There is no evidence that hard-line policies reduce terrorism or even discourage political extremists. It is a given that negotiation with both types of political extremist should be undertaken, with terrorists requiring very special handling. Examples of two scenarios of airplane hijackings are given with the advice that the terrorist will be a catalyst for tragedy if a misstep is made in negotiations. This article does not present solutions, but raises awareness of the difficulties involved and the need for help, even in the realm of the exotic, along with qualified special consultants being sought to offer advice.
The irony of those hicktards…
This is the worst case scenario for Gazans and people who know them. They don’t care about Biden’s infrastructure record or Trump’s position on NATO.
No, worst case scenario involves nukes.
To you. For them they’ve already lost entire branches of their extended families. A figurative nuke already went off for them.
Oh dear, have they done anything to stop 20 years of build-up of tunnels and weapons underneath them?
Have you done anything to stop your government from building military bases?
Why would I try to stop something that I fully support? Last time I checked, the US doesn’t have a policy of slaughtering civilians.
Lol you should check what we consider to be acceptable “collateral” casualties.
And this is exactly what will happen if Trump is re-elected.
It’s happening right now
No, they are not all being killed. There are about 2 million innocent people in the entire Strip. Death figures according to the Gazan Health Ministry are around 30,000 currently.
It’s not impossible though, it’s been attempted before in history, by ethno-nationalist asshats just like Netanyahu’s supporters.
This can get much worse. Many zealots want it worse.
Just because we’re not yet at MegaGenocide™ package doesn’t mean much, most of Gaza is rubble now. That two million people have pretty much nowhere to return to. Israel wanted ethnic cleansing (as they have explicitly stated time and time again, Zionism is a fascist ideology) and they’re getting it
I don’t disagree. Just realize, many, many more people can die. Netanyahu is a criminal, propped up by these ethno-nationalists. He doesn’t care.
We’re all very aware the potential for greater loss of life exists.
Bibi is also propped up by Biden’s unwavering support. The UN’s ceasefire resolution has been blocked 3 times by the US. Unchecked Zionism could easily lead to the catastrophic death tolls you refer to, as if 30k innocent civilians isn’t already beyond abhorrent. Biden is the most Zionist president in US history.
Try floating a UN resolution that isn’t just calling for a cease fire, and actually has some enforcement mechanism. That might be worth a look.
Without a ceasefire, it isn’t possible for medical personnel to treat the 10s of thousands of sick, injured, and starving. IDF forces are blowing up ambulances trying to help.
Without a ceasefire, critical humanitarian aid such as food, water, and medical supplies cannot be delivered. IDF forces are blowing up the delivery trucks even if they travel along so called safe and authorized corridors.
Without a ceasefire, Israeli hostages held by hamas will continue to perish instead of get rescued. IDF forces brutal bombing campaign affects them just as much as Palestinian civilians.
To demand anything less than a ceasefire is, at this point, to betray your racism and disregard for Arab lives.
To suggest that the US isn’t also blocking UN efforts to send peacekeeping troops to monitor for and prevent war crimes being committed on a daily basis shows me you’re very ignorant, or extremely malicious. No amount of dead children could change your mind, and for those like Bibi, no amount of dead children will ever be enough.
A ceasefire is only a mandatory first step. Israel must end the occupation. Palestine belongs to Palestinians.
Genocides usually have a threshold of a few thousand. Is your point, that 30,000 dead civilians that were killed by indiscriminate bombing campaigns by the country with the best military intel on Earth, is not that distasteful a number?
No, that is not my point. My point is that any assumption that our own American ethno-nationalists cannot make the Gazan situation dramatically worse is misplaced. It can get so, so much worse. It can potentially fully succeed.
We have American people that advocate for genocide too, you know. And when they say it, they’re thinking the Holocaust, not a few thousand. They’re not pretending, or playing around.
“They’re not all dead yet it’s not a genocide.”
You. That’s you. Stop literally excusing an ongoing genocide. Fucking pathetic.
No one said it’s not a genocide. It’s a genocide. More people will die under Trump. This is a worse outcome.
Indeed, it’s happening right now and it will keep happening. Stop voting for red and blue
…which translates to genocide.
My grandpa said the same thing and now he’s gonna die without ever seeing me again. Hope he’s proud.
Good for you for drawing a line, it must have been hard but that degree of hate is incompatible with love.
Fuck this guy and all the TNGop that gerrymandered Davidson county (Nashville) to get rid any dissenting opinions.
Can we bring back the proposal that any politician who advocates in favor of an offensive war/conflict be then immediately pressed into service on the front lines?
If he wants to kill Palestinians so badly, maybe he can man up and do it himself rather than speak platitudes across a desk.
And yet I’m sure he GASPS when other people say the same of Americans…
Ah, so I watched the video. He got upset because he was getting pressed against his beliefs. So he said something to try and trigger them. Although, I totally believe he meant it too. Who the hell are these lizard people. Stop voting for lizard people ffs.
