So Ubuntu has this model where they pretty much freeze package versions for an Ubuntu release after release, and then they only backport security updates from upstream. There's nothing new here, most distros do it this way. The idea is that this way they can polish the gazillions of package versions
  • palarith@aussie.zoneEnglish
    43·
    9 months ago

    afaik. You still get free updates. But with pro you get 5 more years of updates on lts. making it a total of 10 years.

    • ebits21@lemmy.caEnglish
      19·
      9 months ago

      Which seems completely fair. This is a silly article and too many comments here aren’t understanding this.

      If a business wants 10 years of support then yeah they should pay as it’s cheaper than upgrading.

      For personal use just goddamn update after 5 years geeze lol.

      Edit: this person’s blog post just misunderstands the situation. See here for actual release info and when ESM starts for each release. 5 years standard as of 24.04.

      And you can get the extra 5 years for free anyway with a free subscription for up to 5 machines.

        • 520@kbin.social
          1·
          9 months ago

          I think that’s a misinterpretation, considering a VM is going to be the first place an org tests such a program

    • blightbow@kbin.social
      38·
      9 months ago

      It is not. The headline is completely inaccurate.

      Nothing has changed for LTS at all. Scroll down to the pretty graphs on https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle, and pay particular attention to how the ratio of orange to purple on the LTS graphs has changed over time. (it hasn’t) The base LTS support window has always been 5 years, and the extended window has always been another 5 years.

      What they did add was additional security updates for Universe packages, which are represented by the black line. Note that this black line is independent of the LTS coverage. From https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq/34042:

      Your Ubuntu LTS is still secured in exactly the same way it has always been, with five years of free security updates for the ‘main’ packages in the distribution, and best-effort security coverage for everything else. This has been the promise of Ubuntu since our first LTS in 2006, and remains exactly the same. In fact, thanks to our expanded security team, your LTS is better secured today than ever before, even without Ubuntu Pro.

      Ubuntu Pro is an additional stream of security updates and packages that meet compliance requirements such as FIPS or HIPAA, on top of an Ubuntu LTS. Ubuntu Pro was launched in public beta on 5 October, 2022, and moved to general availability on 26 January, 2023. Ubuntu Pro provides an SLA for security fixes for the entire distribution (‘main and universe’ packages) for ten years, with extensions for industrial use cases.

      You can also dig into this AskUbuntu answer for even more details, but the long and short of it is this has no impact on Ubuntu LTS whatsoever. Keep using it if that is your thing. Keep using something else if it is not.

      Edit: This old news will become newsworthy if Canonical starts shifting packages out of the main repo and into universe, which would in fact reduce the security update coverage of LTS releases. That said, the article has not asserted any evidence of this. Nothing to see here…for now.

  • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
    124·
    9 months ago

    Not surprising, they want some of that RHEL money. When you choose a Corporate distribution, enshittification is usually what you get…

    • Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      73·
      9 months ago

      You’ll get 5 free instances if you get a subscription, but that kind of messes with the whole “just install Ubuntu from a USB key and use it with no hassle” workflow many Ubuntu users used to love.

      • ebits21@lemmy.caEnglish
        31·
        9 months ago

        It only matters if you want support after 5 years. Just upgrade to a new release if you don’t need 10 years. If that’s a hassle, get the free subscription for 5 machines and you get 10 years.

        Seems reasonable!

      • CosmicTurtle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        9 months ago

        I subscribed to pro with a throwaway email so I’m okay with it generally speaking.

        But 5 instances is not enough, not even for home personal use. If you’re running VMs for other tasks, you quickly hit this limit.

        • Ubuntu desktop
        • kubuntu VM for yarr
        • xubuntu VM for testing questionable programs
        • Ubuntu on raspberry pi
        • Ubuntu in AWS

        I donate to Ubuntu annually but I’m at the point of foregoing that donation if I need to subscribe to their subscription model.

  • BurnedDonut@ani.socialEnglish
    71·
    9 months ago

    I just realized that I’m getting advertisement for Ubuntu Pro where it said it will give me more security patches when I use apt update. I’m using PopOs. Which really irritated me.

    • patatahooligan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      Report that to PopOs. I doubt they would want this ad to appear to their users. They will probably remove it.

  • Pope-King Joe@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51·
    9 months ago

    Man I’m kinda glad I moved on from Ubuntu. I used to like it, but my interest fell a while back and I can’t even really explain why.

  • kadotux@lemmings.worldEnglish
    31·
    9 months ago

    Any sysadmins here to suggest an alternative server distro? We’ve been installing Ubuntu in most of our VMs at our company, and while I realize it’s a hassle to switch them all, I kinda want to at least have a discussion about it.

    • helenslunch@feddit.nlEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      Fedora is the only other “server distro” that I know of but obviously you can install any distro and just omit the desktop environment from the install.

    • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      Since you(r team) already have the Ubuntu experience, the obvious and senseful migration path is Debian. Stable plus docker/podman covers for most of what’s needed plus cover for the “bUt thIS paCKaGe iS 2 weEkS olD!!!1” crew.

  • ry_@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2·
    9 months ago

    Horrendous how canonical engineers with bills to pay might want to monetise their labour!

    More seriously, open source should not be confused with free labour. Do you think Linus works on the kernel for free? He does not, nor should he. We are all lucky to benefit from 5 years free updates from Ubuntu. You need longer, because your use case is so mission critical? then pay for the engineer’s time.

    Edit: grammar

  • mellejwz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    9 months ago

    That’s bullshit, it’s still free for the normal lts support. Only if you want support after that you’ll have to pay, or upgrade to the next version for free.