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- technology@lemmy.world
YouTube said in a statement Thursday that it isn’t planning to launch a new app for the Apple Vision Pro, nor will it allow its longstanding iPad application to work on the device. YouTube, like Netflix, is recommending that customers use a web browser if they want to see its content: “YouTube users will be able to use YouTube in Safari on the Vision Pro at launch.”
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They’ll launch their apps if/when Apple Vision Pro gains more traction.
YouTube is probably the biggest one missing, but it works just as well via a browser. Netflix has a lot of stuff but it’s far from the only horse in town nowadays (and again, it should work fine via Safari). And Spotify is easily replaceable, as song availability is 99% identical between pretty much all music streaming services. People who want a Vision Pro will get it regardless of whether Spotify is available, and they’ll likely just switch to Apple Music if they want to listen to music with the headset.
So…you can use the web version and can block all of their trackers and cookies with Safari extensions. Seems like it would be smarter for them to have their own app and get that data but whatever.
Awesome. YouTube on Safari with an adblocker spares me all that ad bullshit on my iPad and iPhone and makes YouTube actually usable, also I never saw a big difference between safari and the shitty YouTube app in’s terms of usability and you have features from the app without having to pay for.
Is that Dave2D?
It does look like that’s him in the thumbnail! It’d make sense since only a handful of tech people have gotten to try the vision pro so far
Good. Fuck YouTube and anything involving them. It’s about time people walk away from their shit.
Looks to be a disruptive device the others are scared of, otherwise they wouldn’t care.
Uh what? In what way would Spotify and Netflix be scared of this disruption?
Apple is a content producer now too and has much deeper pockets than their competition.
Why would the competition want people to buy into another cutting edge Apple product when they may want to develop their own solution to view their programming?
Your argument doesn’t make any sense. Spotify isn’t going to produce an AR headset and really doubt Netflix will either. It makes more sense for them to release apps for the device if they think it’s going to be successful.
You understand competitor right? They are content competitors, not hardware.
That’s my point. If they believe the hardware will be successful they would want to release apps for it that give them the ability to capture and retain customers. As it stands Apple headset users can only really consume Apple content. So it’s much more likely they just don’t believe in the product not that they’re scared.
You know they don’t need to develop custom apps right? They’ve even specifically disallowed their iPad app to run. That’s the action of a scared company.
No… that’s the decision of company who doesn’t want to invest in a new platform. They’d rather disable the app than support the users there.
Why invest into an ecosystem that will only ever have a tiny user population?
When succeeding versions release that don’t cause people to choke on the price, I’m sure that services will see fit to support those platforms in the future, if the user base is large enough.
I don’t have faith Google could even make a good app for the device considering the iPad YouTube app is janky as shit and it’s been on the platform for years.
the question is do they have any incentive to make a killer app on a direct competitor’s platform?
Since the Android tablet space has been garbage for the last decade, I would assume they’d have at least put in some work to make the iPad app pretty solid.
But I don’t disagree with what you are saying, really. However, if a janky iPad is what they think will make people jump to Android, I have a bridge to sell them.
By garbage you mean Lenovo can offer a fast tablet with hdr, high frame rate display, 2k res, proper pen included and useful desktop mode for less than an iPad? Sorry but iPad is no longer offering competitive product in the tablet space.
It’s not just a “competitive product”. iPads are the entire tablet space.
Nope, iPads are less than 40% of the global tablet space
For the same reason androids are dominant in global market share. Because $5 pieces of shit in the third world that make no profit are the lion’s share of that number.
If you’re buying a tablet, and aren’t buying a $100 piece of shit subsidized by Amazon, there isn’t a single price point where a reasonable person would even remotely consider an Android over an iPad. Android is a terrible tablet OS with terrible support from apps, and the hardware only sounds OK on paper. Every iPad from the entry level up completely shits on every competitor on the market at a comparable price point.
First, you said iPads are the entire market and I just proved that isn’t remotely true, so accept that. Switching up the goalposts to insult people in markets that either don’t have access to iPads or can’t afford them isn’t ok.
Scale of economy isn’t the reason that globally Apple cannot go beyond 40% of that market, it’s a competitive market and Apple would need to sacrifice profit to sell at prices their competitors can to match them at scale. Apple will not be able to meet even their nearest neighbours down from Samsung because they will not scale their soaring profit margin down to match.
If you care the to be honest about subsidies then you may want to ask why Google dominates all Apple products and why Facebook used to - remember when Facebook had its own preferences before being migrated to the app settings? Apple has often subsidised product with brand relationships to certain third-parties to maximise profits.
As to your vague statement about every iPad shitting every competitor that is is bullshit and dismisses all value propositions in favour or brand comfort and some subjective synthetic benchmarks that rarely reflect real world experexperience. In practice I own a really great Lenovo tab that gives better than or equal to current gen iPad Pro experiences for much less. And I get to side load apps and remove bloat and ads at my behest. What do you get on an iPad? Whatever Apple supplies in the AppStore and that’s it. Wipr is ok if you are ok with Safari but you can’t easily or consistently remove ads from other Apps and you can’t recompile them on device to add features or remove other annoying ones. Synthetic benchmarks don’t tell the real story and never have.
Why would anyone want a Spotify app for this?
This is the sort of sentiment that shows how misunderstood this device is. No shade intended.
It’s not just a VR headset you play games in and watch movies in.
They are saying spatial computing because it’s a computer. Listening to music while you do other things is normal on a computer.
