Tesla Cybertruck Owners Who Drove 10,000 Miles Say Range Is 164 To 206 Miles::Also, the charging speeds are below par, but on the flip side, the sound system is awesome and the car is “a dream to drive.”
Why does it look like a car from a PS1 game?
StarFox on the SNES has more polygons than that.
Probably the same reason everything he has named sounds like a 12yo came up with it
Hey Elon stole my plans where I drew this exact thing the very first time I ever tried to draw a car. I think I was 4.
Because we live in the version of reality where the worst idea is the best idea and we don’t actually care about anyone’s wellbeing and safety. The car is shaped the way it is to inflict the most fatalities on pedestrians.
I think the artist behind Mad Max might have some ideas worth exploring. When in doubt, add more spikes.
And why, after we ridiculed this thing 10 years ago for being a low-poly abomination and then it disappeared from view for two decades, did they suddenly decide to release the thing with apparently zero changes in 2023?
This is a terrible, ridiculed, 10 year old atrocity. How is it being taken seriously? I feel like I’m on crazy pills.
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I don’t disagree, except it was 4 years ago that they unveiled the abomination.
It was definitely previewed at least ten years ago. In my old job as UX designer, we were laughing at it around the office, and I haven’t worked there for 12 years. It may have been a limited preview in design circles, not a public announcement, but the design hasn’t changed.
Hmmm, design and everything? That event with the broken windows was a lot last than that, and that’s when it really turned it into a meme
It’s made for a particular type of buyer. Some people like the way it looks. I could give you a hundred reasons why it has several tens of thousands of anxiously waiting customers but my thumbs would go numb first.
Because Musk wanted to make a vehicle out of stainless steel and straight panels are the easiest/cheapest to form.
Straight panels are much harder to make as every bend and minor imperfection show up. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/13/why-the-cybertruck-is-so-hard-to-manufacture.html
Why do you think cars are never made with straight panels?
Straight stainless is easier.
If it was really that thick plate it would be, but making any modern vehicle (that’s not meant for military use in hostile territory) out of thick plate is fucking stupid. And keeping thin stainless flat is really tricky, it wants to have at least a bit of curve to stay rigid. It asoc doesn’t like consistent forming, which is why nobody since Delorean has bothered.
Both for weight, and economy, but also for accident safety—good luck of you’re not also in an armored car, and occupant safety, since the crumble zones are greatly reduced and going to transfer way more energy into your soft tissues and internal organs.
But you can throw a rubber baseball at it just fine at least.
I mean, if you read the article that’s just not accurate. And musk has said as much many times over.
The Lara Crofts boobs comparison is still the most accurate IMO.
Are you genuinely asking? Because I thought all these jokes were made when it was first unveiled 5 years ago?
And it still looks stupid today
And it’ll still look stupid tomorrow. And the jokes will still be old.
Lemmy is 99% karmabots at this point
Is karma tracked on Lemmy?
Not after 0.19
karma is useless in Lemmy, so it would be just idiotic to do such a thing
It is.
263 - 331 kilometers for the rest of the world
Fun fact: the conversion factor from mi to km is ≈ ln(5).
FFS, everyone knows a mile is 1.6 kilometers. You’re just insulting the intelligence of everyone reading this to make some sort of dig against the yanks.
Not everyone (me among them) knows or is willing/able to do the math in their heads
man, if you can’t figure out roughly 60 percent more, well…
Relax.
Learn to count not on your fingers.
Learn to not be a pompous dick, Some people haven’t had their morning coffee and appreciate not having to do the math.
“Imma European and that means I can deny I’m being passive aggressive about my lack of basic mathematic skills because 10 is more logical despite basic logic denying that retarded thought”
Let’s dial the aggression back. We don’t have to be rude to each other.
Truly.
I don’t.
Not everyone! I’m one of those. From time to time some American reminds me but my brain filters out as a completely useless information and I forget it.
Quick check what you know "And what’s the difference exactly? As a Czech dating an Ukrainian woman, let me tell you that the difference is that “European” women are spoiled and lazy. My girlfriend is working two jobs (14 to 16 hours a day), she’s facing a lot of discrimination and racism and yet she’s always in a good mood. Everyone is her community is like that.
Maybe you are from a non-Slavic country? To you they might seem different because you don’t understand/know? They are listening to the same music as you, they are watching the same shows on Netflix as you. Their stuff is arguably better than “ours” cough Lions on the jeep cough. Learn the language and you’ll see. For a nation that went through so many tragedies I don’t think it’s fair to look down upon them. Even if they primarily want a protection. So what? Why should you have it and they don’t?" yeah get fucked
Get fucked for what? That I’m from the EU? That I send donations to the country at war? That I have a gf?
Bigoted prick
My Chevy Bolt gets more range at a fraction of the cost and I love it. I charge it at work for free and it has been an extremely reliable car for a couple years now.
I mean yes but not really comparable to what’s supposed to be a pick up truck. It’s no different than saying your Prius is more efficient than an F150 lol
Calling the cybertruck a Pickup is hularious, you cant fit jack shit in there. So it is more comparable to the bolt than a f150 IMO
There are a lot of pictures on Facebook of people carrying decent sized loads - I saw a stack of drywall, a significant pile of lumber, and some motorbikes. I think it’s smallness is exaggerated
I just wish they had made a modular bed design like every other pickup ever. Cyber truck would be an ideal platform for a professional welder, if he could only flat deck it. Dudes carry a high output generator anyways, in theory they could run their welder off the tesla battery, run their welding genny as needed, and never be stuck out on a pipeline somewhere with a dead electric truck.
That’s too specific to justify the engineering effort.
Well, no, that was just one example. People really do need flat decks, there’s a reason every pickup ever had a separate box. Also every truck mount camper was designed for the 8x4 box, even shortboxes are 8x4 with the endgate down. Cant tow a 5th wheel with a tesla either, or at least it doesn’t look like you can.
You can’t even fit a bicycle in a cyber truck. You’re not gonna be hauling anything.
F150s and the like often have a bigger tank to counteract the lower efficiency. The headline at least is about range, which is made of a combination of battery capacity and efficiency.
Yeah, but an F150 is useful. The Tesla Truck isn’t.
i had a geo metro that had greater range.
so confusing why this exists.
Could you convey that you were both rich AND stupid just by driving your metro?
This is a frankly baffling comparison. I don’t think I could think of 2 more different vehicles if I tried. Believe it or not, range is not the only thing people consider when purchasing a vehicle.
It’s a truck, meant to tow and haul loads. If this is its range unladen then it’s hauling range is 50% or less of this range. Meaning a full charge gets you 82-103 miles, which makes it nearly useless as the thing it’s supposed to be: a truck.
Believe it or not, some people tow short distances, and some people use trucks as trucks without ever towing at all.
But Tesla specifically marketed this as a fully capable truck, which it is not. The F-150 Lightning gets the same range towing as the Cybertruck gets with no cargo.
Of course it is. Once again, range is not the only factor people consider when choosing a vehicle.
Ego
Ok, now try to do the things that trucks are typically used for in your geo metro. Towing, transporting construction tools and materials, etc.
I’m not defending Elon because I think the truck looks dumb and is over priced, but you gotta compare apples to apples.
i had a hitch on my 96 metro. so, yeah. and a geo metro totin a tiny trailer looks a hell of a lot less silly than that silver monstrosity
i do see your point. but i think it misses main the issue here; that this isnt a good vehicle let a lone truck.
You’re still not comparing apples to apples. The people who actually need something like this (not this specifically because we both agree it’s bad) would not be using it to tow just a small trailer. I agree the cyber truck is bad but the comparison still makes no sense.
If you believe them, Tesla says the cyber truck can have a 2500lb payload and tow 11000 lbs. That’s a whole different ballgame than your geo metro which officially doesn’t even have a towing capacity.
Some people actually use trucks for their intended purposes instead of a status symbol.
Can we stop pretending people buying this monstrosity are going to use it like a farm implement. Lmao! Best chance of seeing one of these in the wild will be at a golf course clubhouse.
Yeah, but how long did it take you to refuel your metro? Surely it wasn’t faster than a few hours.
Feels like gas mileage peaked in the early 90s. Geo metro was only 3 cyl and sipped gas. my lil 92 eclipse for over 45mpg highway, i don’t even think it was rated that high.
well, i actually had both a '92 3ycl (suzuki engine) and then later had a 4cyl monster metro. i think that was like a 96?
just dont turn on the ac
just dont turn on the ac
Haha! Same. My eclipse was only rated 90hp from the factory, and i bought it with 150k miles. Good thing it was a stick
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And then the article says homeboy basically floored it everywhere… okay
That’s favorable isn’t it? Starting and stopping at low speeds would drain power faster I think?
“A slow build-up to acceleration coupled with a consistent rate will help your car drive longer on a single charge.”
Til, thanks!
What’s the advertised range?
On Tesla website they said about 340 miles*. Tesla cybertruck
I want an EV offroader so bad, but I currently live in Australia. Some of my trips I’m packing 130L of fuel and this is after getting to the last planned station before hitting the wild. That can get consumed over as little as 200km depending on conditions the car has to tackle.
<200 miles of aggressive highway driving is a death sentence for a 4×4 in Australia. Outside of recreational trips near cities or big towns, mileage like this would put you at high risk.
I also live in Australia and I think you’re forgetting what 99% of vehicles are used for. I can’t even remember the last time I was more than 50km from a fuel station.
He didn’t forget. You just couldn’t resist doing that superior aussie bullshit, even when it’s your countryman.
65 l/100km… Holy shit, a Bugatti Veyron running at top speed over 400km/h is consuming 122 l/100km.
That’s insane
Yup. Terrain is much different to a road, speed is slow, revs are high. The engine has to do a lot more work over much less distance.
A decent mileage to cross the Simpson Desert is around 20-25l/100km for vehicles that do around 10-12 on road. And that’s mostly still using established tracks where speed stays up fairly well and revs stay moderately low overall.
Sounds like they have a loaded up landcruiser or similar, and maybe are towing?
I have a loaded up (and I mean fully loaded) Nissan, towing, and i get about 400km to every 60ltrs. Not good.
Hybrid Land Cruiser?
The cooled seats, passenger visibility, handling characteristics, acceleration, speed, and steer-by-wire system were also appreciated. The fact that the truck gets a lot of attention, including from people who want to touch the pickup and take photos, not so much.
So they bought the attention seeker pickup truck, but got more attention than they bargained for? lol
Super shitty. I have an antique car and when people want to check it out and take pictures with it they sometimes ask if that’s okay. I always say “if I didn’t want people to look at it and enjoy it I shouldn’t drive it around.”
My 2008 city golf has gotten 600kms on 55L(typical fill for me is about 52 litres)
Thats all highway driving and not being an idiot.
Im lucky to get 400 kms on a tank in the middle of winter just driving to work and back. Think the worst i got is 385 kms.
I dont understand why people are so upset at not getting the listed mileage when literally every car is only as good as the driver.
Ive delivered auto parts in a 2014/2015 prius V hybrid (not plugin) doing about 1500 kms a week.
Depending entirely on how i drove i could get 735 kms to a 35 litre tank or about 490 kms. Same route. Just how you drive. Idling and acceleration are the most important factors in real world driving that effect your fuel efficiency aside from how much extra weight is being hauled around
Electric cars don’t idle
You misunderstand why i mentioned that it seems. Allow me to clarify.
The point is not how ICE and EV differ, it was brought up to support the real world issues that cause a listed range to be untrustworthy because how you operate a thing effects its perfmance.
I do not drive an EV and did not spend 8 hours a day often 6 days a week driving one around the city i live in so i cant say i have relevent experience to say how much idling effects the EV, but if a device is on, its using energy to stay on, so idling at lights will have some kind of drain on the battery that will give you less range.
How can it not? It wont be the same i totally agree but I cant imagine it wont make some kind of difference
Lights will be on, typically you will be listening to something on the entertainment system, passengers will also using whatever features exist but just multiple screens on while the vehicle is “running”
Again i dont use an EV so i admit i dont know all you might be doing in one that will be used, but i think im more ignorant of what can drain it while on and not overstating anything
Thank you for the response
Lights will be on, typically you will be listening to something on the entertainment system, passengers will also using whatever features exist but just multiple screens on while the vehicle is “running”
yeah that’s different. I was talking about the engine/motor.
Lights and sound will barely affect an EV battery. maybe you’ll lose 5 miles (at most) of range.
Okay but you are picking specifics and arent acknowledging the point im making, so i have to assume you missed my point.
If you only drive 10k to work and 10k home, and you have to stop at a lot of lights then you are constantly starting and stopping. The need to stop your movement, then get back up to speed aka stop and go traffic is going to absolutely gut your mileage, EV or ICE.
That same 20k every day that is mostly just staying in motion is going to be drastically different for your overall mileage. If you also drive aggressively and speed a lot you are going kill that mileage even more in stop and go traffic.
So again the listed mileage is under ideal conditions which is never what you see
My point is how you drive and what you encounter will determine how close you will get to the listed mileage value no matter what vehicle you drive. Its pretty naive to complain about it just because Elon Shithead is trying to sell a ridiculous vehicle and is a shithead
Theres much better and more honest arguments/factors to point out if you want to complain about Cybertruck or tesla in general.
But thank you for letting me know that the internal electical features barely factor in to EV mileage. Its good to know if im ever able to afford an EV
No I get your point. But there are a few details.
The need to stop your movement, then get back up to speed aka stop and go traffic is going to absolutely gut your mileage, EV or ICE.
Regenerative braking is supposed to help. I don’t really know how much though, so ignore my point here
Elon Shithead is trying to sell a ridiculous vehicle and is a shithead
LOL this is completely true though. I’m never buying a tesla. there are better EVs.
How long is this in world units?
Do people know there is more than 1 cybertruck?
Also it’s winter in the Northern hemisphere, which is going to dramatically impact range.
The vehicle isn’t even a month old, how have people already
hordrove 10K miles?Sigh. Not this again. Look, I personally really don’t like the Cybertruck. I think it’s ugly and pointless. But as someone who likes EVs in general I have to call out the usual “the range is so bad lol” BS.
The two drivers who are using the EV said that the maximum range with a full battery was 206 miles and 164 miles with an 80% state of charge.
The range you get when not fully charging the battery is meaningless. It’s like partially fueling an ICE and complaining it doesn’t deliver the maximum range. Good for a clickbait headline though.
That test was done at a relatively constant speed of 70 miles per hour while the outside temperature was about 45 degrees. The truck was driven fairly aggressively most of the time
Driving aggressively, at high speed, in relatively cold weather is the perfect trifecta to make any EV underdeliver in range. Those are real downsides of EVs (and weather and speed are factors with ICE cars, just more so for EVs) but it’s nothing new or specific to this vehicle. And it is not the scenario the EPA uses to come up with range numbers. Perhaps they should, but they don’t.
Didn’t they just get obligated to report a lower range for many models because they were reporting unrealistic figures?
My understanding of this article is that Tesla’s range estimates were based on assuming they were being driven in it’s range-maximizing, low-performance “chill mode”, while the new EPA rules require reporting the range in the car’s default mode.
